@Meddler When you rework Flat Armor Pen, can you keep the following champions in mind?

Toastersaot··3 votes·676 views

So I heard that we were getting massive changes to Flat Armor Penetration, and I was worried about how it may affect the core builds of some non-assassin champions that utilize it. Many of these champions have item 3142 as their core item, and changes to the item could need them in need of both compensation buffs and drastic nerfs. Although some of these champions have proven major balance problems (looking at you Jhin and Lucian ) many of these champions are healthy and balanced right now.

Draven Although he maybe the most toxic LoL player ever, Tyler 1's Armor pen Draven build is very popular and in some respects healthier than Crit, as there is no RNG element.

Nocturne Nocuturne is more of a diver, but he still uses item 3142 in many situations.

Quinn Quinn is only played by a handful of players right now, but her core build always seems to revolve around item 3142 .

Pantheon He may be up for a full VGU, but I don't think it means he should be absolute garbage tier. I'm no worried much about him, since he is an assassin of types.

Varus Currently, Varus seems to be on a Full AD/Armor Pen Mid Lane build, with Manamune and item 3142 item 3147 . I don't want him to be thrown in the ditch for some assassin changes.

Gangplank I'm biased since I main him, but the Armor Pen build of item 3078 into item 3142 is what really made him strong, and if Flat Pen Gets change too much it could hurt him a lot. Still, I'm not worried that much about GP.

Lucian I'm putting him right here because currently Luc

8 Comments

The Sword Saint3 votes

What about Riven?

Inc downvotes but it had to be said.

xWaters2 votes

Don't forget Twitch.

DunkinNoobs2 votes

Here's a thought: Riot doesn't want adcs rushing ghostblade all the time. The adcs that build it are circumventing their intended late game scaling paradigm by simply rushing a ton of armor pen. And Riot really doesn't like it when people do that.

Valor Bot1 votes

Some Marksmen are meant to be strong in the early/mid game though, and fall off quite hard late game. I don't see why Ghostblade shouldn't be a favorable option for them.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

how is draven armor pen build healthy exactly? its 10 times more toxic than lucian.

Doctor Jarvis1 votes

Jayce "Alright dude, screw you."

Oleandervine1 votes

ADCs never built armor pen in such high quantity, and when they started all building Youmuu's, it became apparent the item was becoming a problem. It should be gutted and those champions who adopted it because of its extreme strengths should probably move on to something else.

Astôlfo1 votes

Ranged champions should never have access to flat armor pen.

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