Instead of Damage per second: 20 / 32 / 45 / 57 / 70 (+ 20% bonus AD) (+ 10% AP)
Can we make it Damage per quarter second: 5 / 8 / 11.25 / 14.25 / 17.5 (+ 5% bonus AD) (+ 2.5% AP)
It wouldn't change the damage at all, it would just feel sooooooo much better to use.
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Mira Arya Enthe2 votes[{quoted}](name=OMG halp meh plz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O2Kpdrkn,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2016-10-08T22:33:04.200+0000)
You know what else we can do?
Make her be able to lane again. That'd be great
Well yes. But this is about QoL. But I would love that.
AirKingNeo1 votesFine fine, buff her but nerf her absurdities a bit so she's beatable when ahead.
Mira Arya Enthe2 votesFine fine, buff her but nerf her absurdities a bit so she's beatable when ahead.
This is hardly a buff. It is making ticks more reliable, so an ever so slight buff, but that is it.
Sammystorm1 votesit is actually a pretty big buff to her reliability. It makes her much much more consistent.
Mira Arya Enthe3 votesit is actually a pretty big buff to her reliability. It makes her much much more consistent.
Champions shouldn't be balanced around being unreliable. You should never have to fight the programming. If requires a very slight nerf in turn good. But she needs buffs anyway. Barely played, never banned, below average win rate.
maikokk2 votesi cant speak for everyone, but i dont think a buff would make me pick her unless it was release Leblanc broken. her current kit has nothing that stands out as a cool thing that other bruisers dont have. she used to have twin bite, but now Evelyn does that better. she is so boring to play that it feels like a stat-check every-time i fight.
Mistress Shyvana7 votesThis, I read the singed change and was like "this is perfect for Shyvana's W" As it is now it Ticks so slow its really no good for anything other than the MS and onhit damage. The W's tick is so slow right now that people kiting you, or if you move to fast the damage wont even hit them if they dip in and out of the range.
Mira Arya Enthe1 votes[{quoted}](name=Mistress Shyvana,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O2Kpdrkn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-10-08T19:09:33.593+0000)
This, I read the singed change and was like "this is perfect for Shyvana's W" As it is now it Ticks so slow its really no good for anything other than the MS and onhit damage. The W's tick is so slow right now that people kiting you, or if you move to fast the damage wont even hit them if they dip in and out of the range.
I should mention, this was originally Mistress Shyvana's idea. I told her I would go out on a limb and post it, see if it gets traction :)
Mistress Shyvana1 votes[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O2Kpdrkn,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-10-09T02:46:24.280+0000)
I should mention, this was originally Mistress Shyvana's idea. I told her I would go out on a limb and post it, see if it gets traction :)
Psssssh thank you <3, Its all you though cause i just drop an idea and hide but you actually take your time and discuss with people
TyrekGoldenspear2 votesThanks for the idea MS.
Sire Hippington5 votessame for almost all aoe dots...faster ticks on burn/poisen feel just alot better.
Mira Arya Enthe1 votes[{quoted}](name=Don Cingulum,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O2Kpdrkn,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-10-08T22:58:03.581+0000)
same for almost all aoe dots...faster ticks on burn/poisen feel just alot better.
As somebody who plays Shyvana, and also use to play Teemo and Brand. I have to agree. I loved in HotS how the dots all were just a smooth drain, there were no ticks at all.
DarkRitual1 votesNot all. I don't want my supports getting nerfed because they instantly proc all three Spelltheif's procs.
Sire Hippington2 votesor maybe give spellthives an internal cd of 0.5-1sec? That would also fix the already existing 'abuse' cases
edit: for spells, not AAs, which is how fervor works aswell to prevent fast stacking. Or leave it the way it is as it's not really that much of a deal.
DarkRitual4 votesI don't like that as much. Hitting an ability and an Auto in a short time should still work. That would actually be a strong nerf to spelltheif's.
maikokk1 votes
shrugs
TyrekGoldenspear4 votesIt would make on hit AP effects a lot better on her for sure.
TurquoiseYoshi3 votesThey're doing this with every other DoT effect (I think Mundo got it recently), so it checks out for me.
Drehirth2 votesyes
Marshbouy2 votesI get the feeling that her jungle sustain with 
would be hideous.
500000000000000018 votesHow would this make any difference? Hunter's medallion applies DOT.
Marshbouy2 votes"damaging a monster with a spell or attack steals 25 health over 5 seconds" That applied once a second on enemy monsters on current shyv. It's stupid good right now and allows her to sustain like crazy. If you let this change go through in theory she will have 4 times the sustain.
The Blue Rajah29 votesThe effect doesn't stack, only refreshes
Marshbouy1 votesdepending on how the math works it's either going to increase her sustain a bit or not at all. If it ticks for 5 hp a second (Starting the instant the enemy is damage) then she will be getting 20 hp a sec per jungle monster, as long as the coding is right.
W Flynn17 votesNo, it will give you 25 health per 5 seconds... hitting the monster again refreshes it, it doesn't apply multiples. If the game worked as stupidly as your post suggested, you would be taking 4x singed poison dmg from singed's changes...
Champion Skin8 votesSome DoT's which are applied on damage/on-hit deals the first tick of damage immediately (this is what they did with red buff to make it more powerful with champions that have higher attack speed)
Singed poison is of course only refreshed if you keep standing in the poison (extending the duration)
W Flynn4 votesI don't see how this is relevant to the application of multiple stacks of hunter's talisman
Paroe2 votesI don't see how this is relevant to the application of multiple stacks of hunter's talisman
It doesnt stack... In league of legends, debuffs to NOT stack unless they specifically state. With hunters talisman, you actually REFRESH the duration, not stack the effect. At most you get 100 health per 5 seconds, from raptors, which you get already with larger AoEs.
W Flynn6 votesThat is actually exactly what I said... why are you responding to me without reading a single post before this
Sire Hippington1 votesThats a thing of the past, all dot effects that also have on hit damage actually say so in the tooltip. Which actually are only teemos E and Redbuff currently...
Marshbouy1 votesYes but, if the health steal applies instantly after the first tick, then it will steal 5 hp. Once the damage refreshes again, it instantly steals health.
If it works how i think it works, then it will be like the redbuff changes. Red buff re applies true damage every AA. It does not stack, but the initial redbuff damage can be reapplied often in a short period of time. If this also occurs with hunters talisman, then shyvanna could potentially regenerate an insane amount of health. I may be wrong though.
Ziovi3 votesPro-tip: in LoL every DOT effect just refreshes when re-applied, unless it is specifically stated that it can stack X times.
Catastrop2 votesThe effect for medallion is still a per second tick, so it changes nothing.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votesif anything i think they need to delete 
from the game. one of the worst designed and most useless champs ... not worth even having . i mean hell 
counters her
Marshbouy22 votesjanna counters the majority, if not close to all melee champions. ????
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 voteslol no on can tell sarcasm its great
Marshbouy1 votesThat's why you go /s
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votesnnnnnoooo the reaction people gave is a prime example of people taking this game way to fukin serious
Baron Perenolde11 votesThe most op support counters a mediocre, one-dimensional jungler? Surprise surprise.
Ziovi1 votesone that doesn't really have any way to close gaps except running while Janna can knock you up, slow you, knock you back and in general is a contender for the "best peeler" title? who would have guessed, right?
Whut Thuh 2 votescan we just make every area dot like singed poison? its sreiously so much better so things like corki w ruumble ult morgana pool malz ult pool
Mira Arya Enthe1 votescan we just make every area dot like singed poison? its sreiously so much better so things like corki w ruumble ult morgana pool malz ult pool
I'd agree, the dots in Heroes felt much smoother and better. The dated 'tick tock' system of dots is so WoW 2004.
hhaavviikk1 votesas someone who plays zyra allot I hated the signed change and would hate this change because signed his Q at the moment destroys zyra her plants nearly instantly =[
Mira Arya Enthe6 votesas someone who plays zyra allot I hated the signed change and would hate this change because signed his Q at the moment destroys zyra her plants nearly instantly =[
Well nobody plays Shyvana and her win rate is 48%, so no worries then.
Also that sounds like a Zyra problem, not a singed problem.
sorry to burst your bubble, but there is a very good reason they have not given the singed treatment to any ad champs. 
it would proc armor shred every tick.
sorry!
p.s.( please ignore my main, Darius' interaction with black cleaver)
XD
Mira Arya Enthe13 votes[{quoted}](name=Death and Doom,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O2Kpdrkn,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2016-10-09T01:11:26.408+0000)
sorry to burst your bubble, but there is a very good reason they have not given the singed treatment to any ad champs.
sorry!
p.s.( please ignore my main, Darius' interaction with black cleaver)
XD
Shyvana's abilities all do magic damage...
Billy VoHagen2 votesYou just don't know what you're talking about.
