Why and How to Nerf AP Malphite

Aegis Dragon·9/23/2019, 6:01:55 PM·3 votes·2,837 views

AP Malphite has always been a particularly annoying thing to face, but once upon a time, the only place you would ever see it was in urf, where weird, unorthodox tactics and builds that wouldn't normally work are encouraged.

But somehow, AP Malphite has made it into mainstream gameplay. I never go a day without seeing it, and every time i do, it's grossly overpowered. This character that is created to be a physical damage sponge is somehow a functioning AP Assassin. If you get hit by his ult, which covers a massive area, that's it. You're gonna get hit by his full combo no matter what you do from there, and you're dead. Granted, this is generally how assassins work, but most assassins don't have a massive AOE crowd control ability that also does massive damage. And, again, Malhpite isn't SUPPOSED to be an assassin.

My propositions for potential solutions are thus:

  1. Nerf Malphite's AP scaling. Drastically. This is probably not the best solution, since it would take away from the fun URF build and discourage variant gameplay

  2. In conjunction with the above, or in replacement of it, add or change scaling with max health and armor. Given his passive, Malphite is already designed with Armor in mind. Why not double down on this and make Malphites abilities scale with Armor and Max HP?

  3. In conjuction with the above, or in replacement, change Malphite's abilities from flat damage to percent health damage. This is probably the best solution, as most tanks in the game already have this, and not only would it still allow for AP scaling and variant builds, but it could also strengthen Malphite's position as a viable tank.

19 Comments

Saezio9/23/2019, 8:33:11 PM5 votes

All your suggestions result in making tank malphite busted as fuck. Except for the straight up nerf scenario A which is just a bad ranty suggestion.

AP malph is easy to play around. He is not an assassin because he can't get in kill one get out. He can trade 1 for 1 when the enemy doesn't have flash.

It's just that in low elo people can't flash malph ultis, and that is no reason to nerf a champion.

BrokenRayquaza9/23/2019, 6:37:39 PM4 votes

Or, we can learn how to flash his ulti and not bundle up into a group. It sounds kinda mean but apparently malph has always been like this but recently he's just become more into the spotlight

Aatrox Eichmann9/23/2019, 8:50:48 PM1 votes

flashing his ult isnt a viable counter to malphite, with neutral objectives being more important than ever flashing his ult wont mean much when his ult cd is 2-3 ish minutes and your flash is on a 5 min cd. his ult gives malphite insane roam and objective control potential, if you start the obj first he runs in and smashes you or your jungler, if they start it first, you have to go in and stop his team, but for fear of his ult you have to spread out like units in TFT, which is wildly inefficient. and malphite just ends up waiting in the wings and bagging at least 2 of you anyway and wins the fight. not to mention his base stats(not his mana thats supposed to inhibit his q spam in lane), his armor means that popular champions like zed and qiyana cant really kill him in lane, and once he hits 6, diving him with a majority of league's champs becomes an impossibility. at least with other orthodox assasins they dont have an aoe mass stun. and as for qiyana, the argument doesnt stand as she uses AD items and Malphite can build zhonyas. at the same time qiyana's health is almost equal to a jinx or any adc. making her pop like a balloon when she gets caught.

MrFawknSunshine9/24/2019, 1:26:30 AM1 votes

this isnt an issue with malphite

its an issue of players not seeing it often before and dont know how/slow to learn/adjust to it

its more of an issue of the meta then his scaling.

nerfing malphite scaling on ap is using your finger to plug a hole trying to keep the hurrican/typhoon/tsunami from flooding the beach.