Syndra - Post-Worlds - Is she OP? - Proposed change

Sir Rouge··1 votes·1,157 views

So, Syndra has been a dominating pick at worlds. As a result, people now thinks she's OP.

Why I don't think Syndra is OP

  • Her counterpicks are very weak atm
  • A lot of champions were nerfed around her
  • Syndra has been successful at worlds by having a lot of gank synergy with her long range stun
  • Is Immobile and skill shot reliant, requires crucial positioning in teamfights and is kiting reliant
  • Syndra has a very high playrate and a subpar winrate around 48.5% in solo queue (patch 6.20, a very balanced winrate for her playrate)
  • Syndra scales worse than the average midlane mage in exchange to her early/midgame pressure
  • Difficult to teamfight with properly

I also think it would be silly to nerf Syndra just before the Rylais changes and the assassins update.

Now, if Syndra were to get nerfed (since she is potentionally overtuned, which I don't think she is), she needs to have a compensation for it. In her current state, Syndra will definitely be underpowered if she is just straight-up nerfed. Nerfing her ultimate would seem like a good idea imo, but she needs to retain her kill pressure to remain a good pick, because there is no reason to pick Syndra over other mages if she doesn't have kill pressure.

In a world where Syndra is OP, here is my proposed change Q : Mana cost changed to 55/65/75/85/95 (up from 40/50/60/70/80) Q : New effect : Refunds 25 mana to Syndra on champion hit

This would nerf Syndra's waveclear (thus nerfing her roam potential) while lowering the room for error in her ball setup pre-ultimate (thus ''nerfing'' her ultimate by upping the cost of preparing it) while rewarding good Syndra players that hit more than 60% of their Qs (and punishing for missing too many Qs/rewarding players who dodge her Qs)).

3 Comments

LadyRenly3 votes

No one was really complaining about Syndra weeks ago before Worlds, literally nothing changed except pros decided to play Syndra. People are just massive sheep. My games the past week have been nothing but Olaf jg, Syndra mid and Kennen/Rumble/Jayce top. Where were these people months ago? Bandwagoning something else.

Syndra is probably seeing play simply due to the fact Azir and Vlad aren't seeing as much play. Vlad alone can negate syndras ult and dodge her stun, and Azir is a long ranged PITA, since those two are LCS staples and are bound to make Syndra work for a win, seeing them gone makes her a more viable pick now.

We've been seeing a lot of Cassio and Varus mid, both of which Syndra can easily dumpster. I think if there was actually a good AD midlaner that's not Varus right now, she'd be less of a problem, but Zed isn't a Syndra counter and Syndra can body him easily too.

Vanic9981 votes

Technically, syndra received a series of buffs leading up to worlds. So I wouldn't exactly say it was the bandwagoning.

dakota saturn1 votes

Syndra has been an issue for a while - the thing that stopped her from being such a nuissance was the fact that nobody played her. I definitely had 'ohshit' moments every time I saw her picked, and have queue dodged many times just bc I didn't want to deal with her. A lot of her kit does take skill and practice and is mostly ok - my issue is that without any skill at all, she can stack Q's and press a single button and delete anyone, even if they have MR. She doesn't have to combo, she doesn't have to put herself at risk, and the skill continues even if she dies, meaning there is absolutely nothing you can do as an ADC if she decides to kamikaze flash + R.

She doesn't have a weak point in the game between her dominant lane phase and ridiculous late game, and even if she performs absolutely terribly and misses every single skill, the base dmg on her ult is just insane. You shouldn't have to pick from a pool of 3-4 champions to just stand on even ground with her and not get completely dominated when she gets her ult.

It's really frustrating to gank her, watch her miss everything, you kill her, but then watch that stupid ult animation which goes on seemingly endlessly until you just die. At the very least, make it like Ahri's charm, where the spell ends immediately if she gets killed. If for nothing else, so there is -some- counterplay to her BS ult.

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