soraka the only no passive, 3 ability champion

VICKLIUS··1 votes·565 views

first id like to talk about her passive if you would like to call it that. it just ms that doesn't even allow her to effect what going on with the champion that is 2500 units away, it has no stand alone capability. then there is her w which she cant even use on herself.

what I propose is that she can use her basic abilities pass their range up to 2500 units away at two times the cost, she can cast her abilities around allied champions that are beyond 2500 units within her abilities range at three times the cost or up to 2500 units at four times the cost (INACTIVE WHILE ON FOUNTAIN).

because of the hp cost if she was able to cast her w on herself she wouldn't gain any hp, most likely she would lose hp. although currently there is a way to not have it cost any hp via warmog what I propose is change the cost to 10% max mana (with minimum cost) . things this could alter if seen fit the additional mana cost is converted into a healing bonus, can cast below 10%max mana for min cost, mana is granted by q 's rejuvenate instead of hp on enemy champion hit an can be given to allies if soraka heals them.

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Poop Jelly3 votes

I actually saved teammates quite a few times because of that passive, and escape with the boost of speed because of someone low behind me to run to. It's situational but it does work.

VICKLIUS1 votes

exactly, it is not always active or able to stand on its own like other champions passives. an my change to the passive would still allow you to save team mates, heck even more teammates with this, because with this instead of still running 2500 units I can heal my teammates or dmg enemy.

FatedSaviour1 votes

exactly, its called passive, as in, the word passive, not active, passive

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

Wanna know what's an actual useless passive? Sion KogMaw going 10/0/5.

VICKLIUS1 votes

yes but if you did go 10/1/5 your passive could then still allow you to determine the outcome of the fight. for that matter anivia, zac, aatrox passives and zileans ult never being procd .

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

No, they went 10/0/5 cz Soraka's passive always saves them from the pit of death by 1 second due to that insane movement speed boost.

Meanwhile, your idea is just shit-flat broken. Making most of her abilities seemingly having half the range of her ult is nowhere near healthy.

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

i disagree with this design. it's fundamentally flawed. you're giving a player a reason to afk in lane. if you make it so she can use her W at 10% of her max mana x 4 is 40% so she can use it twice. from outside of her opponents range.

item 3070 refunds 15% of mana spentitem 3003 25%item 3010 restores 20% of mana cost as hp and 15% of damage taken is turned into mana item 3083 restores 25% maximum hpitem 3165 grants 20% maximum mana per assist or kill and then of course there are the masteries dangerous game and meditation. if we add in the new mastery/rune system then it gets even worse.

i think everyone recognizes soraka as the banambulance. as in she runs in, heals up, and gets out. she's more or less med evac. her passive basically is meant to encourage players to actively heal similar to how warwicks passive encourages players to actively hunt. the benefit of soraka is that she is very passive in design. in order to make her more active you'd have to change her entire identity from a support to a mage.

her Q doesnt have to damage. it just has to hit. her W is only for a lane partner. her E doesnt affect minions. her R only effects her team.

one thing that could be done is make her basic attack deal zero damage, but apply her Q's passive in stacks. then have her Q deal more damage and her W heal over time based on how much attack speed she has instead of it healing immediately. her R could grant passive movement speed while on cooldown when moving towards allies and have a 200 second cooldown.

VICKLIUS1 votes

her q currently to get rejuvenate has to hit an enemy champion, an only gives rejuvenate to ally if you hit q on enemy champ then w said ally.

you didn't finish your math to where it led, firstly with w at 40% cant happen since it can only target allies so it would either be 20/30% of her max mana, with arch angel staff it would be 15/22.5% of her max mana so she could heal top/mid 4 times(10% regular range,20% if beyond regular range but within 2500,30% of her max mana beyond that ).

with catalyst if her w cost is 300 reduced to 225 from staff she would heal for 400(+15 from catalyst limit gain) of that hp at 15% she would 60 mana so for about every 1400 hp dmg taken she would get enough mana for 1 more heal.

warmog loses its passive if you take dmg, and I explained that warmomgs is currently how she gets around her w hp cost because 25% over 5 sec = 5% max hp per sec so at 2 seconds which is when it is back up she would have gained 10% max hp which is its cost.

with morellonomicon you would have spent 90% of her mana to get 20% back which would leave her enough 3 heals bot or 1 more either mid or top an then not enough to cast another heal there or also cast q and e there.

FatedSaviour1 votes

wow u commented twice to the same guy

VICKLIUS1 votes

I beat you I completed an showed my math.

FatedSaviour1 votes

you showed your math, wether you were answering a non existent question that you made up the answer for while also not understanding the point of soraka is another matter

No flash no life1 votes

If abilities that cannot apply to self doesn't count, then heck I guess kalista doesn't have an ult.

This is a team game and it's oriented with that in mind. Not all champions are expected to hold alone. I'm not disagreeing with you in terms of how soraka might be underwhelming, but I don't think that's the right approach.

FatedSaviour1 votes

rakan and shen :D

NahDogSolRahn1 votes

downvoted for clickbait, cuz soraka isn't the only one who doesn't have a "passive" or is missing abilities. Leona needs teammates to use her passive and she doesn't get the damage for it, Syndra needs to wait untill level.9 for hers and that's if they don't mess up on leveling her abilities. Gnar can only ult if he is mega, Janna and lulu can't shield themselves.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

I mean tbh, Syndra's passive can literally be squeezed into her basic abilities & ult like Renekton's empowered abilities. Her current passive is nothing more than just tooltips.

And btw, Janna & Lulu CAN shield themselves.

PopcornBunni1 votes

Shyvana Ryze Syndra Fiddlesticks Never complain about anyone else's passive when these guys exist.

Leaf on Bush1 votes

I know it's not gonna matter but still i gotta tell you, you have no clue and you shouldn't suggest changes to this champion and the suggestions you made are just completely crazy and unrealistic.... to the point that I don't wanna go into details to discuss this.

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