Supports Carried?

Caytheles··8 votes·2,511 views

Why do people think that supports get carried? I mean, i main support but i use my abilities to completely change the battlefield weather i am playing Bard, Braum, Thresh, Leona, or Janna. Supports have a major impact on the Game.

Yet lots of people say i get Carried because i main support.

In my eyes all Roles are Equally important, i dont get how others see differently.

43 Comments

ZephyrDrake5 votes

cuz u dun do teh mad dmgz and mah KDA!!!

but seriously, anyone who says that supports get carried and that they don't require any type of skills or that it's the easiest role do not play support nearly enough to know about how every single thing you need to do as a support that is vastly different from any other role. You don't just sit back and ward/heal even as Soraka you should not be doing that and any support that only does that is only able to get away if the ADC they are paired with is godlike

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Caytheles1 votes

Pretty sure that is a troll. so i wont think much of it. Please Review one of my Comments below, will show you what a support can do that you probably wouldnt have thought of.

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Caytheles2 votes

Not going to deal with you. FYI i gank mid more than my jungler after we get a double kill bot lane. = 3 assists for me.

B) Dealwithit

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Caytheles1 votes

Gold is Medium elo. Also you havnt really stated any proof of us being carried. Meanwhile i gave you one of my point on point plays that i do regularly. To me you just sound like a jerk. But whatevs.

Baunjo3 votes

If your enemy bot lane exerts absolutely no pressure and just lets you cs. Yeah support can just kinda sit there. Otherwise nah man

Also arguably top is the easiest role, you can just farm and push your lane the entire game and be considered a " good top laner "

Caytheles2 votes

I wouldnt agree with that my friend. A good top laner is one who can apply pressure at any point of the game. Just knowing that they have a Trundle top will make the rest of the team Fear of going anywhere alone.... especially if it gets cold all of a sudden e_e. What i am trying to display in this post is that ALL roles are important. The moment i realised that is the same moment my games went smoother and i got to gold. (finally)

Enosetc3 votes

only things supports carry are wards

50000000000000002 votes

Bad supports carry wards. Good supports place them.

Enosetc2 votes

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Bad supports carry wards. Good supports place them.

good guy support carrying wards out of elo hell and placing them in challenjour bushes

Athenes Lulu3 votes

Kills + damage = carrying, of course. So if supports don't kill OR do damage, they don't carry. People who don't carry, are people who get carried.

Get the thinking here?

Jokes aside, it's just egotistical ADCs/mages/assasins (just kidding, not ADCs, they know the presence of supports and that they are useless without one another. If ADCs think supports get carried they must be bad/stupid/rude) that believed that supports don't do work.

Do supports carry? Heck yeah! It may not be those kind of flashy-dashy setups Thresh or Alistar, peeling and healing counts too!

Big Lincoln2 votes

because muh big K/D, you only have assists and sightstone

Caytheles1 votes

oh you have 12 of our 24 kills? Guess who has 20 assists as thresh from those Dubstep hooks, >:3

Baunjo2 votes

I have gotten my ass CARRIED by supports, like I am a horrible ADC that looks good every now and again because my support is like madlife's smurf account

Caytheles1 votes

In the bot lane, it is a Team effort. the fact that you won that lane means you put in just as much work as your Support. and visa versa.

Baunjo1 votes

I kinda disagree with that. In those cases my support was doing such a good job you could win lane as long as you had a functioning brain and 2 hands

Yosuke Apperu2 votes

This. http://orig10.deviantart.net/f96f/f/2013/324/4/7/i_support_you__you_carry_me___league_of_legends_by_kitsune0978-d6utl54.png Also I love how supports are the first to get %%%%%ed at, either them or the jungler. Sometimes the ADC just isn't a very good player, they die and blame the support.. Or support sacrifices themselves so that adc can live, then adc goes back in and blames support when they die. Seriously people respect your support, and don't think that they're the only ones that are supposed to ward. The fact that someone queves up as an actual support means that they know they have to deal with the dangers of a toxic adc, but they do it anyways. Less and less people want to support it seems because of teammates like some of the ones commenting.

Caytheles3 votes

This is beautiful :.)

Teridax682 votes

Supports carry hard, but tend to carry indirectly. For most other roles, their biggest achievement would be getting a pentakill, getting a legendary kill streak or securing a major objective, but a support's biggest achievement is saving their team from death and controlling enemies so skillfully as to set them up to be easily knocked down, which then leads to all of the above kill- or objective-oriented achievements. People who think supports get carried are only evaluating them based on their kill and pushing potential, which they're clearly not made for, and so are making a serious mistake.

thebigjames2 votes

This is such a misconception to the whole idea of what it takes to win games. There is a dichotomy between those on the team of who's role it is to do damage and those who it isn't. You can't have one without the other. Unfortunately most kids think that all that's necessary is damage to win games, you know "muh kda bruh". Traditionally labeled carries do damage while the rest facilitate an environment where the carries can do the damage. This is through anything from peeling to engaging to warding. So who really is winning the game? If it takes two people to get a job done can one of them alone claim they did the whole job? That's the kind of reasoning these "supports do nothing" players are using.

It's such flawed logic to believe supports just get carried. Sadly in low elo, this is often believed true because players are relatively bad so that a mechanically adept adc or mid laner can just solo a game thus creating this fallacy. These players need to stop generalizing.

Drunken Yasuo1 votes

Support players dont need as much skill in form of mechanics like for example a midlane assasin main.

Caytheles3 votes

I would rather say, We need a different type of skill, Also our job is to Compliment our team in any way. Many combos like Talon and Braum.

I did this awhile back where I hit a 4 man ult With braum knowing my Talon was on the prowl, this provided a slow for his passive and Left the Enemy team more focused on Repositioning and avoiding the teammates they could see, As talon was at their backline, the moment he appeared i flashed and used my W,E combo to protect him from getting Focused. Immediately destroyed their backline and all was left was a 5v3 from just two people alone.

I see where you are getting at, Assassins are more risk, Supports job is to Relieve that Risk and make it completely safe. I guess you just havnt seen a support who plans so much :/.

Baunjo6 votes

Did you seriously just say that?

Janna Thresh Lulu Morgana Bard

Hullabaloo9074 votes

Braum too. Those clutch ult blocking shields.

Baunjo1 votes

yeh forgot about braum braum braum braum braum braum braum braum ( To the lord of the rings tune )

Caytheles1 votes

Bard is really hard e_e but worth when you can use him right!

AMYS GRAVE2 votes

Spoken like a true assassin diving the last enemy in their base instead of helping the team take baron.

CLG Uzi1 votes

Maybe because most support players aren't very good. You could be in the minority of good support players.

Caytheles1 votes

Heeeey you're on my friends list!

CLG Uzi1 votes

:P

Duke Anax9 votes

actually most support players are good, it's just that actual support players are rare.

The rest are just "stuck with that position" because they had no other choice and most of those are bad.

Reaper Soraka1 votes

I like mousing over the blue lightning bolt on consensual clown's op.gg profile when he's in a game playing as Soraka.

CLG Uzi1 votes

I think it only takes about 50% effort to be better than the majority of the support playerbase.

I think NA doesn't have very good support players that actually know how to lane.

Almost everyone would get stomped by a high elo bot lane so unless you can lane versus high diamond players with relatively ease you can't consider yourself much good imo

It requires less macro(farming) but just as much brains and mechanical correct positioning as the other roles.

Penns1 votes

The only people saying a support got carried are people that just lost to a fed adc :] Supports cant carry tho, at least in low elo. They dont have as much impact as other roles lel.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

The reason why, and I say this completely seriously, is that supports don't do damage. Sure, they set up fights and engage and disengage and heal and shield and whatever, but at the end of the day, your ADC and mid are the ones doing the actual damage. Yes, each role is important, but you know as well as I that, in a fight, losing a support is nothing compared to losing a damage dealer. Supports can technically carry, but not as hard or as easily as a damage dealer. The main role of a support is to make sure the ADC (or, in Morde's case, BLC, or Bot-lane Carry) survives and is able to get a lot of farm early. Late game, the support sets up fights and makes sure too many damage dealers don't die in the process of dealing their damage. All of it is based around trying to make other people be able to carry, rather than carrying by yourself.

Big Hans1 votes

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The reason why, and I say this completely seriously, is that supports don't do damage. Sure, they set up fights and engage and disengage and heal and shield and whatever, but at the end of the day, your ADC and mid are the ones doing the actual damage. Yes, each role is important, but you know as well as I that, in a fight, losing a support is nothing compared to losing a damage dealer. Supports can technically carry, but not as hard or as easily as a damage dealer. The main role of a support is to make sure the ADC (or, in Morde's case, BLC, or Bot-lane Carry) survives and is able to get a lot of farm early. Late game, the support sets up fights and makes sure too many damage dealers don't die in the process of dealing their damage. All of it is based around trying to make other people be able to carry, rather than carrying by yourself.

Only champions designed as a "support" do not do a lot of damage. You can play any champion in the support role and end up with more damage then anyone else.

WhiskerWow1 votes

Well, I don't think supports can really carry. Kinda. They can win the game, but they can't win the game. They can get the ADC fed like crazy, but it all depends if the ADC has brain cells or not. They can peel their team like a potato, but they can't cut the enemy like a carrot. (Depends on your definition of carry.)

Support Wukong1 votes

^ 100% Support Wukong played, supports carry their team, not the other way around!

BluePolarizer1 votes

The real test if support is needed:

If in a LCS game, a team has a support AFK at fountain, and wins the game because of it, then supports get carried.

Otherwise they seem pretty important, seeing that at the highest levels of play, you need a support to actually do shit.

Arguably top is the most expendable role, since in many LCS games they just double jungle, leach EXP from the jungler and leave top empty if the enemy laner is too strong or they put their duo lane top and its too hard to CS.

Adrian Umbra1 votes

As someone who gets carried regularly by a support/jg maining friend, this. Seriously, the guy has no idea how good he is as a support because people keep blaming the wins on a mediocre ADC like me. I've seen other ADCs get carried by amazing supports like this. Never discount the support players, they're plenty able to carry YOUR butt if you're not stupid.

That being said, an amazing support can still get destroyed by having to support a total idiot. So there is that.

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