Who can teamfight better than a good q farmer nasus?

Too Ton·Feb 28, 2015·1 votes·321 views

Well. . . . . I lost lane as Nasus and couldn't pull it together by the end. What other champions top can carry if there is a melee counterer at top?

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Leti the YetiFeb 28, 20152 votes

~~how did you lose D:~~ ~~im ashamed ~~

if you get countered and cant get ahead... you most likely cant carry your best bet is to carry via utility utility requires absolutely no gold and items some high utility top laners be like JarvanIV Maokai MonkeyKing Chogath Gnar Malphite meaning its okay to get countered, as long as you dont feed.. you remain relevant in team fights

Too TonFeb 28, 20151 votes

Liss went top and early on even with null mantle I couldn't do anything. If I did decide to engage I'd be slowed anyway. Or she'd ult and then stun after for a gg if her jungler decided to gank as well.

Leti the YetiFeb 28, 20151 votes

shit I always get as nasus early item 2041 item 3067 item 3024

wut the hell were u thinking engaging anyway? this is how you lost buddy.. you tried to fight the other guy as nasus you dont do that, you just farm Q and gg EZ

Too TonFeb 28, 20151 votes

I tried to but she chunked me down. If I went to Q farm she'd just go in on me.

Leti the YetiFeb 28, 20151 votes

I've farmed against vayne... gnar... jayce..srsly, I got like 95% lane win rate as nasus wish I could explain the thought process abit

Probably gonna be long 3 easy steps minions spawn blah blah blah Step1. TEST AGGRESSION you cannot overestimate or underestimate the other laner, farm Q normally to see how aggressive they are 1. if they arent very aggressive, lol gg win lane 2. if they are aggressive, you just need to get them to push the lane Step 1.5 PRIORITIES BITCH! your personal health > Q stack > CS > fighting minions are pretty expensive arent they? cost you like wat? 200 health? holy fk you cant pay for all of em, dont your minion wave is the indicator, 1. the farther behind the wave you are.. the safer you are 2. the farther infront of the wave you are... the more dangerous it is as such you must give up some minons that force you to extend too much meaning its especially important to stack melee minions as caste minions are usually in dangerous zones also, lets face it.. getting a Q stack AND a creep score is way more worth than getting JUST a creep score I'm not saying to never last hit minions normally, its just could be expensive sometimes

STEP 2. WAVE CONTROL You gotta control where the wave goes they will naturally push, just about every dumbass i face tends to autoattack nonstop and push the lane if this is the case, you got nothing to worry about then STEP 2.5 THE CONTROL PANEL I'ma tell you what you do after they push 1. Freeze the lane, no shit, you dont wanna farm UNDER turret if you can avoid it this is because turrets can clear the wave at a higher rate than standard minion v minion this causes wave location to reset, kinda obvious right? turret kills all your minons... now nothing is stopping your minions to stroll to the center of the lane. How u do it? this parts actually dangerous and you could die After they have killed off your minions and they still got some less, you gotta take minon aggro; do it right outside your turret range you want to prevent their minons from entering your turret range, this is usually standing in front of minion if you can stop it, good... if you are taking too much damage from minons alone or the other guy tries to kill you, then you gotta slowly inch backwards and leading the minions to the side furthest from your turret Once your minions show up to lane and you're still dead... its simple math, THEY NOW HAVE MORE MINONS IN LANE THAN YOU, left overs from the last wave duh. Now all you have to do is last hit carefully so the lane will never ever push 2. RESET WAVE! YOUR wave is pushing? wut the fuq did you do this is pretty easy to fix, last hit Qs n such if they allow.. until the wave starts pushing to THEIR turret hyper push, nows the ONLY time you will ever use your spirit fire you want your minions to enter their minon wave asap so it can kill the extra minons on your side

**STEP 3. BAITING ** This shit is thoroughly useful baiting is real easy, all you needa do is walk up to a minon or whack em with your cane theyre gonna respond aggressively, I garentee it. You dont actually wanna get hit tho You kinda just wanna go up to a minon but with the intention of pulling out so you actually AVOID what theyre gonna hit you with Scenario 1. They arent pushing the lane well do they have any AoE? You just need that AoE to hit your minons bait them into using it, pretty easy... Bait>Pull out>watch AoE hit minions lol gg! Once you pull that off, your wave is gonna get pushed Scenario 2. This shits gonna kill me If they got something that can do quite some damage to you, just bait that out it should be easier to dodge as you are expecting it and ready to move out the way Alright, head over to wiki and find out what their cooldowns are, thats how many seconds of free time you have to farm

I may be forgetting something eh... Example match up **Lissandra! **lol, you dont even have to bait her, she's just gonna throw shit at you, ake sure to stand by your minions so her ice could hit them woop dee do, the lanes pushed, now you just freeze it infront of tower range where was the problem? lol her Q cooldown is morbidly short so its ALWAYS dangerous Idk man, this match up pretty much hinges on your ability to move side to side and stand behind minions until your life steal becomes just too much for her Riven you see her first part of Q and you outa be like MOVE BITCH, GET OUT THE WAY! QUICK! once she does it a couple times, the wave pushes for sure remember after every Q, you got 10 seconds to watever you want cuz she aint got shit on you

srsly, you should be wary when her Q is up, you should be pacing back and force to get out of its way she's gonna do it for sure if you look like you're going for a minion if she Qs you yet you go for a Q, you're gonna take too much damage.. just give some up man.

Mecha MaIphiteFeb 28, 20152 votes

The only time I lost as Nasus recently was against a Panth who zoned me and froze the lane. Even when itnpushed me under tower, he could harass me.

Liss's early damage isn't nearly as oppressive as Panth, and her harass with Q pushes the lane.

BeatzBoyFTWFeb 28, 20151 votes

In teamfights, Nasus was suppose to shine as a heavy slow-CC tank. I mean, sure you only have just the one CC, but using it onto a high DPS ADC will cripple the enemy team a lot, except if enemy team were to consist of champs like Trist, Xin & Fiora.