So who’s a good champion right now?

Jubilee Phoenix·Sep 30, 2019·5 votes·6,409 views

I can’t really tell because they all feel weak. I think melee champions are the best right now, but 5 min in they don’t seem good and 10 mins later they are...I just don’t know.

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ŚhunpoSep 30, 20196 votes

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YuiwaraSep 30, 20192 votes

yep broken xD

The KombinatorSep 30, 20191 votes

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Nah he is weak, if you can dodge his Q, and ult. Git gud, and you realise, that Pyke is one of the weakest champion in the game.

ŚhunpoSep 30, 20197 votes

Except he's not...and even if you miss Q you can still E in, you can survive with W+passive and one CC from another teammate guarantees that you will get your free gucci bag from your ult.

The KombinatorSep 30, 20191 votes

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Except he's not...and even if you miss Q you can still E in, you can survive with W+passive and one CC from another teammate guarantees that you will get your free gucci bag from your ult.

As long as you play a tanky champion, or has a tanky premade, or use a champion with any form of dash, jump, or teleport you can avoid everything except his ult.

His ult can be avoided with fast teleport, or dash, or Zhonya, or flash. You have 0,75s. to react to it. Akali Ekko Elise Evelynn Ezreal Fiora Fizz Gragas Graves Kassadin Kayn Leblanc Lucian MasterYi Pyke Qiyana Renekton Riven Sejuani Shen Sivir Tryndamere Vladimir

All of these champs can dodge Pyke's ult in some way without the need of teammates, preparations, or an ult of their own.

ŚhunpoOct 1, 20191 votes

Except Pyke is never going in on tanks until they're in execute range, and you usually don't want to ult against opponents with high mobility until they've either blown said ability/abilities or you catch them off guard/predict their movement.

You're looking at Pyke in a very one dimensional way of "Oh, if I can just play a champion and dodge his ult I win!", while also forgetting that 4 other people exist on his team...

Velzard of KozSep 30, 20194 votes

40% banrate 51% winrate 14% pickrate in Master+ Guess those noobs at Master+ need to git gud.

The KombinatorSep 30, 20191 votes

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40% banrate 51% winrate 14% pickrate in Master+ Guess those noobs at Master+ need to git gud.

He got bad reputation which causes big banrate. 51% winrate is not much. The perfect balance would be 50%. That 1% could be a coincidence.

CaptainAntiHerozOct 1, 20191 votes

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Pyke Riven Tryndamere Akali Karma Katarina

[sg-lulu]

ŚhunpoOct 1, 20191 votes

Karma's actually quite weak now after her nerfs.

As for Kat, she's just really good. She's not broken, just really good. The best way to balance her is to remove Gunblade, and give her some compensation buffs. That's 100% what they should be doing as to ensure she doesn't make mid lane too polarizing later down the line.

CaptainAntiHerozOct 1, 20191 votes

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Karma's actually quite weak now after her nerfs.

As for Kat, she's just really good. She's not broken, just really good. The best way to balance her is to remove Gunblade, and give her some compensation buffs. That's 100% what they should be doing as to ensure she doesn't make mid lane too polarizing later down the line.

bruh the op literally said "Who's a good champion", and calling Karma weak is a joke, sure she got nerfed but KILLING Karma is nearly impossible especially with ult hunter to allow you to spam R W on anyone who tries to burst you while sitting on a 200- 600 health shield

ŚhunpoOct 2, 20191 votes

She's terrible right now...

CaptainAntiHerozOct 2, 20191 votes

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She's terrible right now...

Maybe in the hands of someone who doesn't actually play karma but 110+ damage at level 1 as a support "karma's terrible" [sg-lulu]

ŚhunpoOct 2, 20191 votes

~110 damage isn't that much. Pyke, Braum, Blitz, Thresh, Nami, Brand and Swain offer that+more.

CaptainAntiHerozOct 2, 20191 votes

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~110 damage isn't that much. Pyke, Braum, Blitz, Thresh, Nami, Brand and Swain offer that+more.

not at level 1 in aoe

PhearBunnySep 30, 20196 votes

Kaisa is Godtier at everything. Has no weaknesses. Is easy to play.

thefatlazycatSep 30, 20194 votes

mages and assassins

KeiagaSep 30, 20194 votes

Without useless blanket statements like "mages and assassins" or just recommending a champ that recently annoyed me, how about I try some actual advice.

It's actually hard to tell what roles you prefer since you don't have too many game recorded recently, but if you're looking for the champs most likely to win games in silver elo then the following are the top 5 highest winrates in order.

Jungle Volibear DrMundo Zac Ekko Amumu

Mid Rumble Heimerdinger Malzahar Fizz Velkoz

ADC Ashe Jinx Jhin KogMaw MissFortune

Support Blitzcrank Janna Nami Zyra Nautilus

Top Yorick Kayle Teemo Heimerdinger Urgot

But it also depends on what you like most and whta kind of champs feel more natural to you. Just because tank junglers dominate your elo doesn't mean you'll perform well if you don't know how to play a tank.

CadynnSep 30, 20192 votes

LMFAO YOU SERIOUS SAYING KOG'MAW IS A GOOD CHAMPION? HAHAHAH. HE IS THE WORST CHAMPION IN THE ENTIRE GAME.

A girl Supp MainSep 30, 20191 votes

"In silver elo" where most people play. I don't think he's good, but iron to silver isn't gonna punish him and games almost always go late, so yeah, he's pretty fine there.

CadynnSep 30, 20191 votes

that's the same as saying garen is viable.

Kog'maw is and will forever remain trash, I'm an adc main btw

KeiagaSep 30, 20192 votes

I also think kog is a garbage champ but the data says hes the 4th highest winrate adc in silver

Garen probably would be a great pick in silver too since games go on long, juggernauts scale pretty well and noone knows how to kite

CadynnOct 3, 20191 votes

And that’s not true at all. Garen scales terrible, and is strongest at the mid game. Let me also remind you only Irelia and Jax scale well.

Darius, Rene, Aatrox, Camille. They all scale bad compared to ADC’s and mages. Top lane in general is weak

CadynnOct 3, 20191 votes

I also know how to kite even tho I am just gold 4 (climbing rn), I kited a voli that had full hp meanwhile I was Jinx with about 10% hp.

I killed him and got a triple kill, so pls stop acting like low elo players don’t know how to kite.

KeiagaOct 3, 20191 votes

Let me rapid-fire some points at you since there's a lot of things that need addressing.

Garen and Darius only fall off at 40+ minutes. https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/game-durations According to this, Most games are over by 30, which is when Garen is strongest.

Not sure why you're bringing up Irelia, Jax, Aatrox, or Camille since I never mentioned anything about any of them. None of them even classify as Juggernauts.

I was talking about silver elo so your hardcore gold elo self also has nothing to do with what I was talking about.

Anyone can say anything they want when they don't provide proof. One time I was playing all AD Rakan and went in 1v5 at 40 health and dodged every single skillshot before getting a quadra kill and winning the game. Cool right?

CadynnOct 3, 20191 votes

Imagine looking at stats for solo q. So Akali is also the worst midlaner??? Ahhaha

ZaFishboneSep 30, 20191 votes

Mages and assassins.

HunkmenlordySep 30, 20193 votes

Garen

usul1202Sep 30, 20191 votes

Honestly, don't worry too much about classifications. Koggles is fairly weak but kaisa is reasonably strong (or was until last patch, been pretty busy), both being mixed damage super scaling adcs. Xayah is also good though, and she's quite immobile like kog. Hook supports are all doing pretty great right now, but tank supports are super hit or miss (kinda forgot braum was a champ for a bit). Even popularity is a weird metric, scarner mains are putting up some good numbers meanwhile ezreal has like a 46% winrate and people still flock to him.

I'd recommend avoiding champs with the 44% win rates because they've been gutted for high level play, although they can be rewarding if you really put the effort in. Beyond that, afaik every champ has a good winrate on dedicated mains, find something you enjoy, learn it through and through, and make it op in your hands.