6.5 Soraka Hidden Buff: "On Heal" Effects and Rejuvenation.

CyrosGold·Mar 18, 2016·20 votes·4,174 views

Not really pointed out is the effect her rejuvenation passive has on the few "on heal" effects in the game. Since it re-applies the effects with each tic causing the duration of those effects to be increased by the duration of the Rejuvenation passive. So winspeaker's Blessing goes from 3 seconds to 6-8 seconds and Frenzy(From ardent censer) goes from 6 seconds to 9-11 seconds.

Edit: Just posted a full game where I build Ardent in the late game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yzVLLYc6Gc&feature=youtu.be

23 Comments

The Bearded BardMar 18, 201618 votes

It is uncanny how well these bots are made. That Lucian plays just like the ADC I get matched with in my ranked games!

CyrosGoldMar 18, 20163 votes

Even beginner bots are smarter than some low elo players. Unless your saying you suspect your carry for scripting, which does happen, but the scripts are way better than these bots.

The Bearded BardMar 18, 20164 votes

Joke

Your head

CyrosGoldMar 18, 201610 votes

I ducked

ßurstMar 18, 201612 votes

Great find now we must NERF!

CyrosGoldMar 18, 20161 votes

You know what I would love to see for soraka. Nerf her W's base a little more, and give it a harming effect to enemies(On enemies it deals 50% of the healing it would have done to an ally and applies the rejuve passive as a dot if she has it). Then add a little more AP ratio to her Q and she could Mid lane with the rest of them.

CanidaeMar 18, 20169 votes

That'd break her bot lane. That'd break her bot lane a lot.

I'm not gonna explain why, but that'll break her bot lane.

CyrosGoldMar 18, 20161 votes

By giving her a 550 range non skill shot damage ability that applies a dot, provided she landed a Q, and a better AP ratio on her Q? Nah it would make her W a bit weaker than brands E(though more spammable but still cost a % of her health) and her Q only slightly stronger. I don't see this as broken as a support. It would provide more skill to her kit, more decision making would be required, She would build more AP if she wanted to deal more damage and heal more. I think this would balance her far better than she is now..unless I'm missing a key point or two.

CanidaeMar 18, 20161 votes

Soraka's broken partially cause of how much her Q got buffed. Ur asking Rito to buff her Q even more. Specifically, this patch's Q changes increased her utility tremendously.

The idea of her W being used for dmg seems kinda silly to meh, why would I want to get that close to people and use my own hp to deal dmg with a skill that would have fairly low bases and only average scaling before resistances. What makes her W strong is that AP ratio and how the CD is reduced to 2 seconds at max rank. Why the W build is good in duo lane is cause of the ability to make your hp and extension of your adc's hp.

Also, why da heck are U comparing her to Brand?

Long story short, I need ppl to suck at playing Soraka so that Rito doesn't have a reason to nerf her. (I'm looking at YOU, EUW and KR communities)

QuephaMar 18, 20163 votes

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That'd break her bot lane. That'd break her bot lane a lot.

I'm not gonna explain why, but that'll break her bot lane.

It'd also give her an actual 4th spell in solo lanes.

Replenish life with Q, turn it into a nuke with W very scary hypothetical.

Duke AnaxMar 18, 20161 votes

The thing is she doesn't even need it in solo lanes, that Q alone is absolutely ridiculous.

I recently went top against Teemo with support setup because Cho never connected, I still won that. Afterwards I went three times top with a proper setup, the Teemo and the two Vlads I met then had no chance.

I could even take Vlad blow for blow, because i was healing more than he did.

It Hertz When IPMar 18, 20161 votes

That was how her E originally worked. It got reworked because everyone hated it.

flibitydooMar 18, 20162 votes

not really as meaningful given that Soraka players (Pre-rework and post rework) tend to mash the W button every 1 second meaning windspeakers/ardents is basically permanently active on the target they are healing.

CyrosGoldMar 18, 20163 votes

But good players will make better use of it. Since with a little CDR you can get off multiple heals while you still have the passive, and apply it to multiple targets. In these situations it will be quite powerful.

Duke AnaxMar 18, 20162 votes

Right now not spamming W is actually a better, especially in lane.

It enables us to go E first, which makes for a lot of reliable utility and damage in lane.

ProfirixMar 18, 20162 votes

The armor and MR bonus on Windspeaker's Blessing is definitely benefiting from this. If Ardent Censer were a better item, then I would agree that Soraka had new build options available to her. Ardent just needs a complete rework. That item does not fill the intended niche of empowering your ADC successfully and giving an advantage in trades. Even if the item had an upgrade, because as it stands, it may be gold efficient, but it suffers from being an item with low stats. They could increase the stats and increase the cost, or just add a straight item upgrade that costs 1--1.5k more. I want to buy it, I really do, but its impact in the game is negligible.

IqqiMar 18, 20164 votes

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The armor and MR bonus on Windspeaker's Blessing is definitely benefiting from this. If Ardent Censer were a better item, then I would agree that Soraka had new build options available to her. Ardent just needs a complete rework. That item does not fill the intended niche of empowering your ADC successfully and giving an advantage in trades. Even if the item had an upgrade, because as it stands, it may be gold efficient, but it suffers from being an item with low stats. They could increase the stats and increase the cost, or just add a straight item upgrade that costs 1--1.5k more. I want to buy it, I really do, but its impact in the game is negligible.

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I mean a 15% attack speed increase and a 30 magic damage on hit steroid is certainly not nothing. 1 extra auto attack over the course of a 3-4 second trade is certainly not nothing. Sure for just poke trades it is not really anything, but it should not be underestimated in a longer fight.

If I have even 2 auto attack focused champions on my team I buy it. Applied to the entire team through ultimate. Course it probably is not worth it to buy it just for your ADC, unless your ADC has all your teams gold. In which case another steroid couldnt hurt >.<

CyrosGoldMar 18, 20163 votes

But for it to last up to 11 seconds with rank 5 Q, That becomes quite a few empowered auto attacks.

IqqiMar 18, 20161 votes

yep.

MagearnaMar 18, 20163 votes

Exactly. There are very specific instances where I'll build Ardent Censor. And in every game that I'm able to build it, I win. It actually is a REALLY strong item given the proper teamcomp.

#SorakaMainsUnite<3