Finally my Darius/Morde buddy lane is going to become legit!
Edit: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-58Mflku3d3M/WAaI5221d0I/AAAAAAAAWQE/0wM6CZTK43o1Qgz6wMHJCVFs3ivlOullACLcB/s1600/item1.jpg More shields and more healing too?!
Critmaster Garen6 voteswait. "can be used while dead" what the shit.
edit.:
why is this passive not on bveil? the item has always been hit or miss, due to how easy it is to pop the shield from a distance with some cheap aoe spell. the passive is either usually trash if its cd is too long, or too strong when the cd is too short.
i made this suggestion years ago, to turn bveils passive into an active like this.
1.5 seconds is probably still too long. should be somewhere between .5s and 1s.
Astôlfo6 votesHaving an easy and quick channel time spellshield that lasts that fucking long with such a low CD isn't a good idea, considering said channel also isn't interrupted by moving.
Critmaster Garen1 votesHaving an easy and quick channel time spellshield that lasts that fucking long with such a low CD isn't a good idea, considering said channel also isn't interrupted by moving.
like i said. i think the channel time is too long. shouldnt be more than 1 second. it should be used in response, not popped before a fight to prevent an enemy to react to an engagement.
Am I the only one that sees potential balance problems with all the new items?
sure, but i also see potential good it can do.
marksmen have been occupying bot lane for 6 seasons now. this is a good start to get some diversity into the duo lane. especially since marksmen and other ranged champions are now more frequently found in solo lanes and the jungle, its only fair that the duo lane is opened to other champion classes.
Astôlfo1 votesRedemption has a fairly short cooldown for a fairly powerful active cast ability, which can also be cast while dead, as well as having a 5500 cast range. Yes, the ability happens after 2.5 seconds, but landing it on allies shouldn't be a problem, and any sort of teamfight CC would mean potential disaster for the enemy team if they got hit by multiple Redemption lasers.
Critmaster Garen1 votesRedemption has a fairly short cooldown for a fairly powerful active cast ability, which can also be cast while dead, as well as having a 5500 cast range. Yes, the ability happens after 2.5 seconds, but landing it on allies shouldn't be a problem, and any sort of teamfight CC would mean potential disaster for the enemy team if they got hit by multiple Redemption lasers.
honestly, i find that one item rather weird. it will definitely be useful in combination with 
2.5 sec is a hugeass delay too. i dont know what to think of it. if it didnt have the heal component, the active would pobably be trash.
Provengreil1 votesI can imagine a disengage or tanky team using it to reset their half of the fight. Imagine launching a malphite ultimate with that new CC->shield item and dropping this heal at the same spot. By the time the enemies can fight back, the heal is too close for them to kill someone and you get maximum effectiveness. Items like these plus increased assassin use might herald the return of the best of all meta types, the tank metas. Put the ADCs in the jungle with graves, duo bruiser bot, a maokai or sion top, Karma mid....a bit slow but they'd never really die.
XeroKimo2 votesThis would totally outclass banshees in terms of spell shields too.... for ad characters anyways, like wtf
WoonStruck1 votesI smell Nocturne coming back into meta.
Champion Skin1 votesBanshee Veil spell shield does have some advantages in being better against long range initiations and such were you don't have 1.5 seconds (especially if they come from fog of war)
Though it is really weak to long range abilities like 
burrowed Q (it doesn't actually do that much damage that it is very good for poking but it is still good enough to knock off banshee veil spell shield)
And Banshee Veil does have a horribly long cooldown... 40 seconds and the cooldown is reset upon taking damage from enemy champions (which makes having the shield pop by some meh long ranged poke ability all that more painful)
Astôlfo4 votesAm I the only one that sees potential balance problems with all the new items?
Hibeki4 votesRIP Force of Nature
Critmaster Garen3 votes
+ any melee bruiser imo.
this is really promising. looks like riot is trying to make other duo lane combinations than marksman / 0cs support possible.
hopefully this will survive the inevitable shitstorm of complaints thats going to follow when adc mains cry about other champions popping up in their lane.
the only problem is see with this is to survive long enough and not fall behind like crazy before you manage to get the gold to build this. the new masteries for season 7 will probably play a role in that. also, if theyre doing changes to starting items.
double 
will probably be the best option to go into a double bruiser lane.
Provengreil2 votesthe adcs can still play. Gravers and Kindred are actually junglers. Corki, Ezreal, and ashe have all seen play in the midlane, if briefly. Vayne and quinn have seen success top, and I'd be unsurprised to find caitlyn working well as a pocket pick. in short, they'll deal with it well enough I believe.
ManiacalCoyote3 votes
+ 
= Bash Bros.
+ 
= Ridiculous
+ 
= Dunks for Days
IPromiseTomorrow3 votes + 
= Hexa-dunk-Hexakill-2v8-No lube RatedXXX The Hexanal Duo 3000.
XaviorZeroBlazer2 votes
and 
will be stupid powerful now. I hope they don't get nerfed into the ground if and when those comeout
Mira Arya Enthe5 votesThey will be, then like Shyvana, when the items are removed, they won't be buffed back.
kasfas4 votesAhem, that's called getting sejuani'd.
Big Lincoln3 votessejuani is fine, though, maybe you should find a better example
like shyvana
Drehirth1 votesAgreed free shyvana
Provengreil1 votesSeveral champs fit this really. WW was crushed because of red smite and again with devourer, both of which are basically gone. Kayle feels really weak to paly even when the winrate is actually still fine, and it's msotly based on a needless AS nerf. I think rammus was left a bit behind way back when Randuins got nerfed. Morde barely functions without a rylai's, and well....
LankPants2 votesShe's OK now, she was the weakest jungler in the game for ~6 months after Cinder was nerfed. Since that point both her and Cinderhulk have taken direct buffs.
Sahn Uzal2 votes 
Yes...
YES...
Ben Sharpio1 votesthese items dont feel good enough for sion.
Sahn Uzal1 votesI like to play Sion Darius botlane with a friend ^^ You might've seen a meme post about it at some point :P
Stephenizgod2 votesSeems to me these items were built for our outrageous gem knight, here is a fun fact kittens: Taric's Ults Invulnerability lasts exactly 2.5 seconds. Meaning once that puppy activates, just hit the old Redemption button and come out of invulnerability with a glorious beam of healing fun with a dash of %Hp true damage that everyone loves to see everywhere.
Knight's Vow is just obviously a great Taric item.
Edit: oh man, I am looking forward to Bot lane shenanigans
Primaquarius2 votesAlistar is a healer tank again, yay!
CarameI Frappe2 votes ... Uh, you're not going to nerf me now are you Riot?
Sorry Leona, you're broken now thanks to these items we, ourselves, added to the game. Prepare to get Shyvana'd.
As a Leona main, i'm really worried this will make her either broken, played / banned continuously, or downright nerfed because of a few items Riot didn't anticipate to make certain champions broken ... crosses fingers
DarkRitual1 votes
Nerfed because of item synergy? Welcome to the party.
Also this item is almost certainly going to get Soraka nerfed hard again.
Qiy4na2 votesnostalgia? never heard of 'em
Ralanr1 votesLet's combine redemption with Sion shield for shits and giggles.
Malicious Metal1 votesScrew the mana regen, Imma build it on Morde too! More heals and stronger shields? :^)
Ralanr1 votesVladimir more heals!
Tychusfindlay9191 votes[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NavY4uIH,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-10-18T20:59:51.054+0000)
Screw the mana regen, Imma build it on Morde too! More heals and stronger shields? :^)
Kind of like how morde can stomach the mana on tri force cuz of the insane sheens?
Tychusfindlay9191 votes[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NavY4uIH,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-10-18T20:48:42.773+0000)
Finally my Darius/Morde buddy lane is going to become legit!
Edit: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-58Mflku3d3M/WAaI5221d0I/AAAAAAAAWQE/0wM6CZTK43o1Qgz6wMHJCVFs3ivlOullACLcB/s1600/item1.jpg More shields and more healing too?!
Interestingly enough, I've played darius support before. My ADC farmed all the minions and I farmed all the champions. Worked out decently well. Also helps that the enemy support was a melee (braum)
FalconPawwwwnch1 votesNo that won't happen
What will happen is Braum/Alistar being picked on the enemy team means the ADC now is even harder to kill
Big Lincoln1 votesdamn, I can already tell I'm gonna get yelled at for not building knight's vow when I play tanks
gonna be suppper fun desu
Spice POWAH1 votesinb4 
builds all of these and breaks the game in half, getting them nerfed
you just know he'll somehow manage it :P
ForFoxSakes1 votesJ4 and panth is actually a pretty brutal combo. Double dive, CC and burst
CrazFight 1 votesDamn these items seem kinda strong.... O_O Lets hope they are, ive been waiting for more support items :D
Meep Man1 votesI'm fine with the return of Kill Bottom Lane.
Evewynn1 votesThis is just going to promote tank supports more than anything. Sure the stats are efficient, but it's not like you start with this item, and laning phase would be over by the time both bruisers purchased it.
The Loveless1 votesUnless you skip gp5, both buy wards and rush this armor instead.
Evewynn1 votesWell, have fun getting pelted by range for the entire lane...it would take specific champs in order to make it work, and even then it would likely never see competitive.
The Loveless1 votesKill lanes are very easy to pull off, but only for those who don't wait for their opponents to get levels/spells.
PC Trash Go Away1 votesThis can't be real, no way is rito just now doing something to cut down on the marksman/support bot lane formula.
Okamikazi1 votesHELL YES!!! More exciting and fun melee champs viable for the supp role? Sign me up for supp 2017!
Pierce The Veal1 votesI can't hear any of you over the sound of Hecarim support trampling over his enemies.
That and RIP FoN they even recropped your dead body onto an imposter/blasphemous piece of shit.
