Is Jhin with Guinsoos a bug? I just spectated a game where he was hitting 1600 per auto.

Hópe·4/3/2018, 11:31:14 PM·4 votes·985 views

I was actually confused i was watching my duo play and they legitimately got 1 shotted by Jhin with Guinsoos. Mind you this is late game but this doesnt seem like a ''balanced'' thing ? seems more like a bug

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Ok sure but why4/4/2018, 2:03:44 AM6 votes

You think that's crazy? You should see every other ADC ever land 800 per auto while attacking three times as fast.

Infernape4/3/2018, 11:33:47 PM5 votes

Yes and no. Guinsoo's now gives %bonus AD and %AS per stack. Jhin scales off both and gets a shit ton of AD through his passive. The "bug" if I recall correctly, is some form of recursive loop with Jhin's passive that gives him more AD than he should have with a stacked Guinsoo's.

Mysticman894/3/2018, 11:36:17 PM1 votes

Probably not a bug in a strict sense in that the interaction is working correctly, but perhaps something they didn't consider (as after all, one doesn't usually associate an item that amplifies on-hit effects with jhin) so may or may not actually be balanced on him.

There may be a balance update that tweaks how the interaction works for him, but it'd just be a balance change, rather than a bug fix.

Sp33d Zer04/3/2018, 11:33:39 PM1 votes

Guinsoo scales with him on two fronts.

On one hand, it gives him bonus TOTAL AD, and Jhin gets to the highest AD in the game normally.

On the other, it gives bonus TOTAL attack speed. Because of the AD you get from attack speed due to his passive + the attack speed items you buy normally for the crit build, you are getting double total bonus stats that both give AD.

It's basically double dipping. It's like how Cho's ult gives him more health, which gives him more damage. Or how Riven's AD gives her bonus power for her auto attack passive, giving her double AD benefit on autos.

ZJD1234/4/2018, 4:55:48 AM1 votes

There is no bug. It just hyperscales him into some very skillful gameplay

DemainaNyx4/4/2018, 9:53:13 AM1 votes

Nope. Guinsoo gives % of AD and bonus AS per stack. Since Jhin converts everything into AD, it doubly affects him because each stack gives him AS which he turns into AD, and each stack adds a percent of AD so it's doubly effective on him.

Meep Man4/4/2018, 3:37:27 PM1 votes

Not a bug. Jhin gains % increased total AD from his passive (which is seen as bonus AD being given) and Guinsoo's increases bonus AD by a %. It's multiplying his multiplier, which is getting multiplied further when he crits, especially on his fourth auto which also hits for missing health damage.