I want to get into jungle, champions that are good for beginners?

xTropicalPenguin·9/2/2016, 6:57:25 PM·1 votes·934 views

Also some general tips and tricks that go with the role? on a side note i remembered Skarner exists, and he looks fun

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EndlessSorcerer9/2/2016, 6:58:17 PM4 votes

If you are just starting out, I'd recommend you start with Volibear and Amumu .

They are both rather straight-forward and simple junglers but they are rather impactful (especially in the lower ELOs). They are quite useful for teaching players several basic (but extremely important) habits and mechanics for junglers.

I would suggest watching videos by high-ELO and/or professional junglers (i.e. Nightblue3, Stonewall008, Valkyrin, and foxdropLOL). They will typically provide a lot of useful tips while playing and you can often see or hear their decision process and some optimizations throughout the game.

Off the top of my head, some basic optimizations may be:

  • Use hard-CC when the monster camps are about to attack you to cancel that attack and delay their next.
  • Each of the smite buffs are quite useful in different situations. Be sure to take proper advantage of them.
    • Raptor's buff is great for ganking
    • Gromp buff provides extra damage during clears and fights, especially for champions with a lot of health
    • Krug's buff reduces the damage you take while clearing and lets champions without CC kill Scuttle Crab faster
    • Wolf buff is useful when you are being counter-jungled or invaded (or after your initial towers have fallen).
  • If you have a weak early clear, Krugs -> Raptor's -> Red Buff is probably the route that conserves the most health.
  • Kill the little Raptors and the little Krug first on single-target clearers. They deal a significant amount of damage for their health value, so you will be healthier if they die early.
  • If you think the enemy jungler will invade you early game, it can be safer to start on a buff camp rather than a little camp since you are less likely to be where they are looking.
  • Attack Speed is extremely efficient at clearing on most junglers. I'd recommend using about 15% on champions when you need to speed up their clear even if they don't use the stat much later (with a few exceptions, such as Nidalee and Evelynn).
  • Keep a pink ward out (or in your inventory) whenever possible. This is important for every champion, but I thought I should emphasis it. There isn't really a good reason not to.

As far as ganking is concerned:

  • When possible, conserve your gap-closer while ganking. If you can get to the enemy champion without using your mobility spell(s), then you can save it to catch them after they try to escape (Flash, dash, blink, etc).
  • You should should try to stay between the enemy and their escape route. You should be trying to move backwards (towards their escape) in-between attacks so that you can body-block them and slow their escape. This also leaves you closer to them if they try to dash on blink past you.
  • Use Raptor's smite buff to determine if you have been spotted by wards when ganking to reduce the risk of them escaping or receiving a counter-gank.
  • It can be risky to gank top-lane while Dragon is up since the enemy team can just group and take it 4v3. I'd recommend ganking top-lane early if possible (after your initial clear) and when Dragon is down; that lane can be quite snowbally due to isolation, so you want to get your ally ahead.
  • Learn to recognize the general times when buff camps spawn during games. If you see the enemy gank bottom lane while their top-side buff is up, you can go steal it from them.
  • Watch when top and bottom lane initially go into lane. If that lane has leashed for their jungler (missing health, mana, or showed up to lane a bit late), then you know where the enemy jungler has likely started and where they will end their clear (where is closest for them to gank).
  • If you have killed the enemy laner, you can either allow your laner to freeze or shove the lane into the enemy tower. If you shove the wave under tower and the next minion wave is coming up, it can be helpful to proxy it to ensure that the wave fully resets and the enemy laner misses as much as possible. This is very situational though and you will have to learn when through experience.

Other tips:

  • Whenever possible, walk up to the enemy champion during a gank and save your gap-closer for after they use their escape abilities.
  • Watch the enemy laners when they go into lane. Whichever lane shows up later and/or missing mana will likely indicate which side of the jungle the enemy jungler started on (which is useful for predicting gank paths and for counter-jungling).
  • When against aggressive early counter-junglers (i.e. Shaco) it can be a good idea to start on your buff camp and/or to start on a different side than you usually do. If he invades your buff, you've already taken it and/or you aren't there to be killed.
  • Watch the minimap to see when and where the enemy goes to ward, which laners are pushing, which laners are vulnerable
  • Know, roughly, how most laning matchups go so that you can prioritize which lanes are the easiest to gank or require an early gank to decide the matchup.
  • If you have blown an enemy's Flash during a gank but haven't killed them, swing back around immediately after an gank them again. Many people don't expect it
  • If you've killed an enemy during a previous gank in top lane, kill them again immediately after they return to lane. They likely won't have wards up yet and a second back-to-back death can be enough to completely crush any chance that opponent has to recover the lane.
  • Top laners rarely bother warding the lane bushes. As such, lane ganks can be quite surprising and effective.
  • When you kill an enemy laner, shove the minion wave into the tower so they miss gold and experience and so that the minion wave will reset to the middle of the lane. If you can get away with it, clear the upcoming minion wave as well to ensure the reset and maximum missed minions.

You will learn a lot through experience, but these tips should help you at the start.

Bellows9/2/2016, 6:59:30 PM1 votes

Warwick apparently.

theonlyaustin9/2/2016, 7:02:15 PM1 votes

Amumu Warwick Quinn JarvanIV Kayle RekSai Tryndamere Zac MonkeyKing Volibear Vi Olaf

specter4249/2/2016, 7:05:16 PM1 votes

Graves he is broke as fuck, super easy clearing, high damage output, 4k gold in free tank stats, etc.

XinZhao2WinNhao9/2/2016, 7:06:45 PM1 votes

Warwick

Fusion Soul9/2/2016, 7:09:07 PM1 votes

MasterYi Good Jungle Clear, Auto attack Champion, you've seen the crits and high damage output i suppose before and if not prepare to be amazed, can take down squishes and tanks easily when fed, of course there are counters to him, alot actually, but his q can dodge almost every ability in the game.

Just look at Cowsep

420 grams9/2/2016, 7:15:53 PM1 votes

Master Yi, ammu, and Warwick

agbudar9/2/2016, 7:36:47 PM1 votes

Shyvana if you like afk farming. item 1041 then on your first back make sure you have enough gold for item 3077 generally the build you would follow is something like this item 1401 item 3748 item 3153 item 3742 item 3065 with w/e boots you feel you need. this is for anti counterjungle objective controll and gank people that are way out of position aka right at one of your towers.

Trundle dont see him too often but has a great bag of tools to get him through the jungle pillar is great once you know how to land it his passive sustains him through farming and his kit in general shits on anyone that wants to counterjungle. the jungle builds that i use are item 1400 item 3111 item 3025 OR item 3009 item 1416 item 3153 with a follow up with item 3742 item 3065 to finish the build. with the warrior build i usually getitem 3748 for extra dueling power.

Sejuani VERY WEAK EARLY GAME SUPER STRONG LATE GAME TANK. this one is definitely an intermediate jungler and is very prone to lvl 3 counterjungles and dying to them. however if you get through all of this you will be rewarded with an unstoppable tank. a good starting build i figured out recently is item 3047 item 1401 item 3001 this does a lot of damage to most people makes you somewhat tanky and allows you to do really well in midgame till you transition into a tank lategame personally i ussually follow up with item 3742 item 3083 and a 6th item is debatable depending on the situation. Keep in mind this is with a pure tank rune page/masteries(armor marks and quints flat health scaling seals and scaling mr glyph'sand strenght of the ages as a keystone.) if you feel like you are losing too much health in the early game go for a different rune page. something like armor seals atk speed marks lifesteal quints and w/e glyph's you deem neccesary probably ap or armor.

Skarner does not work in low elo soloQ period. His kit is arguably one of the best but requires lots of coordination with your team. most succesfull jungle core build to get on him is by far item 3111 item 1400 item 3025 and tanky from there on out. it can work but is definitely not a beginners jungler.

Amumu Gragas Hecarim JarvanIV Kindred Khazix Nocturne Shaco Vi Warwick Volibear MonkeyKing can all be great junglers but i dont have enough experience with them to make any comment. i used to play some of these way back but they were not my style.

general tips.

farm your buffs imediately start with imediate smite on gromp>wolves>blue so now you can smite blue. get scuttle crab on that river. if the oponent jungler shows up just run, since you are a beginner most likely you wont be able to beat him anyway, you already did what you needed to do. 1 you located enemy jungler make sure your team knows. if he doesnt show great. now you can sustain back on scuttle and get a free ward.

now get red buff, dammit Udyr took your red buff (very common udyr has super fast clears) make sure your team knows. you lost red buff no biggie get golems>see if you can get scuttle crab in that region. now look at your health bar. are you below 50%? yes? go back get some items and prefferably item 2032 you clearly need it. no i got about 60-70% health left. ok gank a lane try and pop a flash perhaps get a kill just ad pressure. after ganking. are you below 50% health? go back get health start farming and keep an eye out for dragon at this point you want to contest/get it. ward it.

if your enemy jungler has already a couple of kills and you are behind get item 3711 instead of item 3706 so you have extra wards for your jungle he will most definitely try and take your camps. if he does and your team is around you can go in for an easy kill

sheldonbunny9/2/2016, 8:08:30 PM1 votes

I've been wondering this myself. Lots of good information in here.

darkmatchwaldo9/2/2016, 8:21:20 PM1 votes

Play some Volibear and watch Trick2g's Volibear videos.