People need to shut up about Mao/Sej or Zac being horrible rework.

LegendmakerGX··5 votes·746 views

It has only been 1 day since the rework and people already say Zac rework is bad. Trust me, you wait 1 week and then you will see people learning new build path for these champion and make them OP. Which champion has got a rework that was not good? If I recall the rework on the champion they did always end up being busted after 1 week when people start to learn them and learn how powerful they are that they had to be nerf a lot.

Only 2 champion that is sort of not crazy over tune for me and that is Yorick Warwick. Felt like the one who worked on Warwick went easy on him because of the back lash he gets from previous champion he worked on (forgot the Rioter name).

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Big Lincoln3 votes

they weren't good though

PeepingPeafowl3 votes

Zac's winrate plummets 13% while every other rework gets a winrate increase, and every Zac main is saying the changes are terrible and completely changed his play style for the worse.

But we cant say the rework was bad.

How about no.

LegendmakerGX1 votes

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Zac's winrate plummets 13% while every other rework gets a winrate increase, and every Zac main is saying the changes are terrible and completely changed his play style for the worse.

But we cant say the rework was bad.

How about no.

K first off buddy your logic is a type of a bronze, no crap his win rate is going to plummet. Wtf do you think rework is about? state changes? it has been 1 day and you think the instant they play Zac they are going to win with him? How about I give you 1 day to learn how to play a champion and see if you have a win over lost ratio.

Shaclone was a one trick pony who bitch about shaco mini rework being bad and others too but guess what? SHACO HAD OVER 3 MONTH OF 2ND BEST JUNGLER UNDER IVERN with a 55%^ winrate. So usually the people will always btch about it.

PeepingPeafowl1 votes

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K first off buddy your logic is a type of a bronze

no one cares

Wtf do you think rework is about?

Giving him more to do in teamfights. Otherwise known as what they said it was about.

it has been 1 day and you think the instant they play Zac they are going to win with him?

You mean like every other rework? Yea I do expect the same thing to happen as the others, no shit.

How about I give you 1 day to learn how to play a champion and see if you have a win over lost ratio.

Sure give me Maokai or Sejuani , oh wait...

Shaclone was a one trick pony who bitch about shaco mini rewo-

I don't know anything about this and I don't care, I'm talking about Zac

LegendmakerGX1 votes

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no one cares

Giving him more to do in teamfights. Otherwise known as what they said it was about.

You mean like every other rework? Yea I do expect the same thing to happen as the others, no shit.

Sure give me Maokai or Sejuani , oh wait...

I don't know anything about this and I don't care, I'm talking about Zac

Ya you clearly do belong in bronze or silver bud, you think rework is going to revolve around team fight all the time?

"You mean like every other rework? Yea I do expect the same thing to happen as the others, no shit." Then why pull out the 13% drop rate in just 1 day when you know it will drop after re work? Tell me how much times have you even played Zac new rework bud, 2 times? I'm looking at your history and can tell you just cry like a kid about the changes when you only played him a max of 2-3 times and already made up your mind if he sucks or not while not even giving him a shot.

PeepingPeafowl1 votes

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Ya you clearly do belong in bronze or silver bud

do you actually think ANYONE cares about what you think their rank they should be? Other than you?

Then why pull out the 13% drop rate in just 1 day when you know it will drop after re work?

Because it didn't drop for any of the other reworks, the other reworks actually increased win rate

Tell me how much times have you even played Zac new rework bud, 2 times? I'm looking at your history and can tell you just cry like a ki-

hahahhah, go ahead and look at how old this account is and then tell me its my main, I cant believe you actually care this much.

but anyways here is Riot saying the Zac rework sucks, https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/J6vZg0wr-quick-gameplay-thoughts-may-4

have fun with that, buddy.

LegendmakerGX1 votes

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do you actually think ANYONE cares about what you think their rank they should be? Other than you?

Because it didn't drop for any of the other reworks, the other reworks actually increased win rate

hahahhah, go ahead and look at how old this account is and then tell me its my main, I cant believe you actually care this much.

but anyways here is Riot saying the Zac rework sucks, https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/J6vZg0wr-quick-gameplay-thoughts-may-4

have fun with that, buddy.

Scroll that back bud are you new to league? All rework always get a higher win rate on the first day?

He didn't say Zac suck if you are blind he said a little weak, A LITTLE.

VoraciousX1 votes

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K first off buddy your logic is a type of a bronze, no crap his win rate is going to plummet. Wtf do you think rework is about? state changes? it has been 1 day and you think the instant they play Zac they are going to win with him? How about I give you 1 day to learn how to play a champion and see if you have a win over lost ratio.

Shaclone was a one trick pony who bitch about shaco mini rework being bad and others too but guess what? SHACO HAD OVER 3 MONTH OF 2ND BEST JUNGLER UNDER IVERN with a 55%^ winrate. So usually the people will always btch about it.

I play a decent bit of Shaco and I thought jungle Shaco felt terrible. You can't really level 3 gank reliably whatsoever, you can't even Q from the side brush of mid lane into the middle of the lane and have enough stealth time for them to not see you coming(you actually appear right before you hit the middle of the lane, or maybe even sooner), and it's not like you have any reliable CC other than your boxes which you need to place behind them before they have time to react for the CC to hit. He's definitely bad now though.

As for the new reworks. I can tell just by LOOKING at Sejuani's passive she's OPAF. Heck they already have nerfs for her on the PBE. Imo they shouldn't give someone that much friggin armor and magic resist in any form though. She literally has TWO entirely different passives. Why should a tank get a passive that allows them to deal 15-25% maximum health damage AND a passive that gives them DOUBLE their armor and magic resist PLUS 100 in the same breath?

0ny1 votes

This happens with just about every rework. People haven't properly re-learned the champs, then go and have a knee jerk reaction, and sometimes riot even follows suit and changes the champ only to realize it was a mistake months later. You'd think people would have learned by now.

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