Riot 
passive is busted if you have 
and 
you just want to die to deal the maximum damage in the fight this is unfair to the community, and he is CC machine riot please give his Q and R more or less cool down the champion isn't that played.
Ralanr9 votes...Sion op?
Really? You're going to say that trying to maximize his passive makes him OP?
It's not like you can't get away during his reanimation.
Also, he isn't a juggernaut. He's a TANK. Sure he can be built like a juggernaut and be somewhat effective. But he's a tank, not a juggernaut.
And please don't tell me that he's a juggernaut because it's in his title or because tank rank 7 is called "Juggernaut". Riot has been terrible at naming things and labeling.
Blitzcrank isn't even labeled as a support for example.
FunkyDan1 votesPreach it!
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesI think he is that op because of you get little ad items for example titanic hydra , frozen mallet and stack his W allot early and mid game in team fights they will ignore you because you are tank but doing decent CC and damage or focus you and get to the others then your passive kicks in and the AP's and squishy AD's will be ahead for your team and you destroy them they will run leaving the fight or die to you. Oh and no i don't thing he is juggernaut by the title but because he is dealing damage and he is tank at the same time with only 3 tank items and 2 ad items and pair of boots.
Ralanr4 votesOk first, use more periods.
Second: So he shouldn't be rewarded for stacking his passive well?
Third: Yes Sion has pretty good damage for a tank. But this is allowed because his abilities are all unreliable. If his damage was poor and his skills were unreliable, then there would be no reason at all to play him. He would be unplayable in top.
Plus if he's building AD items, then it shouldn't be a surprise that he hurts. He's building damage to do damage. Trying to make the most of his passive, which counts as a death for you, doesn't make him OP.
He's a tank. Tanks are supposed to be powerful midgame.
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesAnd again he scales pretty good with HP and with the titanic hydra and frozen mallet these are tank ad items that give you like 1150 HP both he is still tank and deals tons of damage and if he gains 600-1000 HP by his W passive in the first 30-40 minutes you are going to be tank that will die and punish them hard for killing you.
Ralanr1 votesTitanic hydra and frozen mallet are bruiser items.
And again that's how he's supposed to use his passive. If his passive didn't hurt then it'd be useless.
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesSion dies and enemy team dies its easy that's why he is op.
Ralanr1 votesI doubt he could last long enough to kill more than maybe two people.
Sion's not OP. If you lost to one, sorry.
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesIf Sion is good enough he can be very useful in team fights and completely destroy your team.
Ralanr2 votesYou mean like most champions?
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesSion is more dangerous than other champions because of the passive kill 1 or 2 when alive die kill 1 , 2 more or help killing them and you won the team fight because of champions like Pantheon you go in kill 1 or 2 they will focus you , you will die and that's it. Oh and when you have beast mode passive you can clean even more easier .
Cremepie1 votesBut that's the point of his passive, even without titanic and just frozen mallet I've picked up triple kills off of dying and cleaning up. Its punishing you for focusing the tank and having bad positioning. You have to play around sion, just like you would have to play around killing a karthus in the middle of your team and then dealing with his passive.
Edit: its okay to not like it, its unfair to call it op.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votesBut that's the point of his passive, even without titanic and just frozen mallet I've picked up triple kills off of dying and cleaning up. Its punishing you for focusing the tank and having bad positioning. You have to play around sion, just like you would have to play around killing a karthus in the middle of your team and then dealing with his passive.
Edit: its okay to not like it, its unfair to call it op.
HMM CHAMPS THAT CAN KILL FROM THE DEAD OR NOT DIE .... 
BUT YEA IS THE BROKEN ONE
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesAlmost all these champs are squishy and can die super easy. Only Tryndamere needs allot of CC to die Zac is kinda good tank but he pops like a balloon if you don't build him full tank Yorick only ultimate useful and he is getting rework so no more useful ult Teemo really i can one shot him with Bard .
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesAlmost all these champs are squishy and can die super easy. Only Tryndamere needs allot of CC to die Zac is kinda good tank but he pops like a balloon if you don't build him full tank Yorick only ultimate useful and he is getting rework so no more useful ult Teemo really i can one shot him with Bard .
lol how can champs who have abilities to come back to life, become invulnerable or have abilities to kill after they die not be in the same topic of sions passive where he can kill from the grave?
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesBut when you have 4 other teammates you wont be able to play him around so easily .
Ralanr1 votesYou mean how teamfights work?
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesYou sayed you can pick up Sion and play him around easily stop changing your mind every time.Because when you have team they cant kite you and if they do your team will come you will get your passive and deal sustain damage.
Ralanr1 votesWhen did I say that?
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesSome other dude sayed that i got into the wrong comment box .[zombie-brand-facepalm]
Ralanr1 votesOh. No problem. It happens.
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesWelp i think i am kinda dumb ... But yes i am that person who rants for thousand years and one simple mistake get's me all the time.
Cremepie2 votesumm did you mean "you will be able to play around him easily" ? Because I cant tell you how many sions have died quickly to 4 man focus and then just cc him once and walk away scott free.
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesYou are forgetting 1 very important aspect you have team they will engage with you they will CC them deal damage and who is dumb enough to focus Sion with team near him you cant just walk away yes you will kill Sion because of the 5 v 1 focus but your team might be able to pick some kills well if you have bad team its gg (by bad team i mean 0 team comp and low CC and low elo players) there is nothing you can do.
Cremepie2 votesBut thats the purpose of sion THE TANK, deal disruption and make it super easy to crush the enemy team. If he gets focused for it then he's doing his job and its his opponents mistake for getting caught in his cc/focusing him.
Are you complaining that Sion is too distracting for bad teams/comps to deal with?
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesI want to say if you got communication and decent team you wont lose but if you have 0 CC team, bronze team its going to be hard to carry.
Cremepie2 votessure but if you have a zero cc bronze team you know who else is a problem?
and every (sparing varus) adc to name a few
Hell in my opinion 
with just one AP item is more busted than sion will ever be
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesI don't want to say Sion can beat them all(he can't beat only akali,azir,fiora,fizz,irelia,jax,master yi,vladimir and tryndamere)but he is the most op juggernaut come from the dead and kill them all even fiora can't kill him in team fight because he is going to be beating her and your team will beat her too Sion is not the best 1 v 1 champ but when it comes to team fight the best juggernaut.
Ralanr2 votesWell he's supposed to be a teamfighter. That's literally what tanks are made for.
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesThe best of them.
Ralanr1 votesNot even close.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votesNOPE, NOT EVEN CLOSE.... NEXT
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesWell wen he dies and you die so i think this is the most op juggernaut in team fights that we need.You will try to run from the fight but he have frozen mallet and team behind him when he is dead you are trying to fight him well good luck with that.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votesWell wen he dies and you die so i think this is the most op juggernaut in team fights that we need.You will try to run from the fight but he have frozen mallet and team behind him when he is dead you are trying to fight him well good luck with that.
I JUST PLAY 
INTO AND BUILD 
MY W DODGES HIS Q AND IT DOES ABOUT 21% HP DAMAGE AT RANK 5 WITH 200 AP PLUS MAGIC PEN.
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesIf you cant play him well in lane you will lose but if you are Sion main you will be able to counter the top laner's and then in team fights you just clean up.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesIf you cant play him well in lane you will lose but if you are Sion main you will be able to counter the top laner's and then in team fights you just clean up.
SION ISNT OP OR BROKEN, HE IS A TANK WITH SOME CC ABILTIES THAT ARE VERY TRANSPARENT. AND AS FAR AS HIS PASSIVE IS CONCERN ITS TOO EASY TO CC OR KNOCK BACK / KITE TIL HE IS DEAD AGAIN AND HE DOES NOTHING. FOR THE MOST PART ALL SION OFFERS IN END GAME IS A CHAMP THAT CAN BE COME A HUMAN MEAT SHIELD CONSIDERING HE GOES FULL TANK AND STACKS HP AND IF HE GOES FULL DAMAGE HE WILL DIE INSTANTLY. A CHAMP LIKE WHO HAS TONS OF CC, PASSIVE HEAL AND SUSTAIN %HP DAMAGE , DAMAGE REDUCTION FROM ULT THAT ALSO DEALS DAMAGE AND CAN TANK JUST AS GOOD AS SION AND PEEL EVEN BETTER AND HAS HIGHER BASE DAMAGES CAN EASLY BEAT SION. IS AN ALMOST IDEAL COUNTER TO
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesYou are wrong here Maokai have little knock up and root that's yes his ultimate is decent if you can protect your carry or mage but he have damage if he is built AP, tank Maokai have only little bit of CC and almost no damage 1 v 1 with Sion you wont kill him. First he have better HP scales and item scales second if you manage to get him low and he dies you will need to flash to survive and third he have his ultimate and can escape really easy.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesYou are wrong here Maokai have little knock up and root that's yes his ultimate is decent if you can protect your carry or mage but he have damage if he is built AP, tank Maokai have only little bit of CC and almost no damage 1 v 1 with Sion you wont kill him. First he have better HP scales and item scales second if you manage to get him low and he dies you will need to flash to survive and third he have his ultimate and can escape really easy.
mao q is a slow and knock back, his w is a root which can be used to gap close, his e slows on impact and his ult reduces damage. so he has a bit more cc then you know.
One more thing titanic hydra and frozen mallet are not full ad Sion these are the only damaging items.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesOne more thing titanic hydra and frozen mallet are not full ad Sion these are the only damaging items.
but that only gives you 70 ad so im not worried about a 70 ad increase on sion i know also gives bonus damage based on hp i get that but raw stats is 70ad. when as a with gives 115 armor, 500 hp, bonus damage on auto after casting an ability which mao does nonstop which also gives a aoe slow that increases with his armor for more cc and it gives him cd and mana for more spamming of abilities. also aoe damage from sunfire. and i typically go flat attack speed reds, flat armor quints, hp per lvl seals and scaling mr blues for 15 % attack speed, 13 armor , 216 hp at lvl 18 and 27 mr at lvl 18 with my typical build of i end up with about 225 armor, 200 mr, 240 ap, 15 magic pen, dot damage that procs on all my q w e for bonus damage 1516 hp from items and runes +2102 lvl 18 hp for a total of 3618hp 30% cdr and take in 2% bonus on abilities + 3% damage on double edge sword + 2.5% on targets that are slows, cc, rooted, taunted ect so my w is 13% + 3% per 100 ap of a targets maxium hp so with having 240 ap that would be another 7% damage for a total of 20-21% rounded. so if you have 3500 hp as sion my one w will do 700 damage before masteries, magic pen, and before your mr is calculated. so with one w at max rank and max build you lose 700 hp. that is just one ability not a full combo or auto or anything else. so your 70 ad from wont really harm me with me having 115 armor from items +13 from runes + 3 from legendary guardian mastery ( considering you the only enemy around) + 97 armor from lvl 18 would give me 228 armor. and i have 3618 hp.
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesWhat is i tell you i get almost 400 on hit damage with titanic hydra late game. I can stack this item infinitely to increase my damage over and over. When Maokai can increase damage and tank stats only by items.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesWhat is i tell you i get almost 400 on hit damage with titanic hydra late game. I can stack this item infinitely to increase my damage over and over. When Maokai can increase damage and tank stats only by items.
well you are increasing your "tankyness" through items as well by buying items that stack hp which is 1100 hp and i get you can stack hp with the passive on w, but you arent increasing your armor or mr and for someone who stacks hp champs or items that do %hp damage, true damage ect will do more damage to you the more hp you have.
Ralanr1 votesWhy are you in caps lock?
MrSmothyFruty5051 votesI don't have idea why i am in caps , ok , leave me alone.[zombie-nunu-bummed]
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesWhy are you in caps lock?
WHY DOES BIG LETTERS OFFEND YOU, ARE THE LOUDER THEN small letters? DO BIG LETTERS INSULT YOU AND CALL YOU NAMES? BULLY YOU? TAKE YOUR LUNCH MONEY? but to answer your question i was a work and the program we use for work when we use commands in the program it dont recognize lower case letters. but i guess that is all you took from these post.
Ralanr1 votesMy apologies.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesMy apologies.
lol no worries homie. its cool. i just dont understand why people get twisted over BIG LETTERS?
Ralanr1 votesI was more curious. Usually typing in all caps can be seen as rude.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesI was more curious. Usually typing in all caps can be seen as rude.
well i understand people take it why but i never understood why? lol its like were people abused and beaten by BIG LETTERS as kids instead of getting a belt or time out lol. i can imagine some person with a complex if they see LARGE LETTERS due to daddy beating his ass with a large wooden A instead of spanking with a belt.
Ralanr1 votesPersonally I just imagine it as the person constantly yelling. Because we lack voice in textual based communication, we compensate by changing how certain texts are read to emphasize different meanings.
so CAPS are usually used for yelling.