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Is Shyvana a Bad Champion Right Now?

Caretaker Jack·Oct 9, 2018·1 votes·1,361 views

I've been playing Shyvana, but I find myself powerless because her clears don't really feel all that fast. I usually end up around the same level as everyone else and that's already bad because most of them have ganking power and Shyvana's ganks are terrible even if you make it to lvl 6. Like, she has this crippling weakness and I can't see any trade-offs.

And that's just the half of it... Turns out she is also super easy to kite, not really a true tank, and unable to chase or secure kills without having frozen mallet. The saddest part of all is that your game is probably already over before you even get it. All of these things combined make getting dragons extremely difficult, so if your allies aren't dominating already, it's likely you're stuck with a useless passive. This is sad because it feels like you can't actually interact with the game. It feels like you absolutely depend on your enemies doing nothing to push a lead or your allies absolutely stomping.

Am I wrong? Does anyone reading this play Shyvana? Does anyone have some kind of tip to share?

Because this is what I've gotten from playing her so far and I really hope I'm wrong because I really like Shyvana and I think it would be really sad if I had to scrap the champ because she's borderline unplayable.

4 Comments

ForFoxSakesOct 10, 20183 votes

I have M7 on Shyv but havent been picking her much lately. She's not a tank. Building her as such kills your usefulness when everyone can just ignore you

You're absolutely killing the champ bc you never build item 3077 into item 3748 which is what makes your clears ultra fast and your initial purchases are terrible. Why would you ever get item 2032 when you dont even use mana, or getting your item 3715 first?! Getting item 1043 by 8-10 mins in most games is also mega slow and way behind by that point. Buy that before your T2 jungle item and with faster attacks you'll lifesteal more, clear faster, take less damage, level faster

To compete with other duelist junglers you need to dump summoner 4 and pick up summoner 3 or summoner 14 . Once you're 6 your ult is on such a short CD u can use it to wall hop escape or dive, then be back up everytime you fight. Most other junglers wont have the extra combat summoner so you can fight them junglers 1v1 and win. She's one of the hardest junglers to win 1v1 against when played properly. Red summoner 11 and summoner 3 makes them super weak, and also makes your ganks much stronger even before you're 6.

On my first back I always get item 1043 after the first full clear, which also lets you solo any dragon level 4 right after your first back, with 2 pot charges and smite up. It's a timing where the other jungler would be starting his 2nd clear and very unlikely to be in the river or checking dragon.

When you go bloodrazor and mallet you damage is crap and clear stays slow. Titanic is pretty core, especially when you're in dragon form you get more HP which scales with the titanic damage on top of extra aoe to clear, +double aoe tap with Q

Caretaker JackOct 10, 20181 votes

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I have M7 on Shyv but havent been picking her much lately. She's not a tank. Building her as such kills your usefulness when everyone can just ignore you

You're absolutely killing the champ bc you never build into which is what makes your clears ultra fast and your initial purchases are terrible. Why would you ever get when you dont even use mana, or getting your first?! Getting by 8-10 mins in most games is also mega slow and way behind by that point. Buy that before your T2 jungle item and with faster attacks you'll lifesteal more, clear faster, take less damage, level faster

To compete with other duelist junglers you need to dump and pick up or . Once you're 6 your ult is on such a short CD u can use it to wall hop escape or dive, then be back up everytime you fight. Most other junglers wont have the extra combat summoner so you can fight them junglers 1v1 and win. She's one of the hardest junglers to win 1v1 against when played properly. Red and makes them super weak, and also makes your ganks much stronger even before you're 6.

On my first back I always get after the first full clear, which also lets you solo any dragon level 4 right after your first back, with 2 pot charges and smite up. It's a timing where the other jungler would be starting his 2nd clear and very unlikely to be in the river or checking dragon.

When you go bloodrazor and mallet you damage is crap and clear stays slow. Titanic is pretty core, especially when you're in dragon form you get more HP which scales with the titanic damage on top of extra aoe to clear, +double aoe tap with Q

Hi, I just wanted to say thank you and I really appreciate you taking the time to respond... After reading over your response, I had a few other questions I wanted to clear up...

So I shouldn't rush item 1419 ?

Are you saying to rush item 3077 before my jungle items and then get item 1043 before item 3715 ? Is that right?

Also, should I leave item 2031 the way it is? Or should I be starting item 2003 instead?

ForFoxSakesOct 10, 20182 votes

You do rush Bloodrazor. Idk what other runes you run as well but celerity is a must have for your secondary tree since your W gives you lots of move speed and celerity turns this into even more damage

Would be something like first B item 1043 Then item 1419 item 3077 item 1001 on your next 1-2 backs Finish item 3748 then you build for the match after that. Ideally should have all this by around 16-18 min. She can fight most champs 1v1 starting whenever you finish your bloodrazor, even before level 6 because you have exhaust for the edge, so you can invade a lot to take his camps, which is where you'd be getting your gold and exp lead while shutting them down.

Then can tank up a bit or even more damage if you're ahead by a lot. The only other damage items you'd consider would be item 3153 or item 3022 , but tanky items increase your damage as well with titanic hydra's HP scaling

A lot of higher elo have been running item 1414 item 3115 item 3157 AP build for super E & R AoE burst then team cleans up, but I dont like it especially in solo queue where you'd want to rely less on the team, splitpush, powerfarm and invade

HaIlMonitorOct 10, 20181 votes

I feel like she is strong. I usually only pick her into really tanky teams though. Also Frozen mallet. Get that item because it helps her so much.

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