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Zyra nerfs?

Teslyn··4 votes·661 views

what zyra needed before was increased run speed and added time to her snare maybe a tweek to her passive that if she killed a target she would come back to life 1/4 health. that would have worked..

what you did to her was: give her an odd plant spawning passive. reduce her damage widen her Q remove her W CDR tweek the AI of the plants so now they do that non-attacking pausing thing because target they want is on the edge of her target radious. increased her run speed Reduced the health and time duration of active plant life early game

and now the nerfs?: change plant AI to not fixing the problem but reducing her harass with them. (and trust me plant AI was not as consistent as it should be. more of a guessing game.) increased her plant passive spawn reduce early and mid game plant attack speed.

Seriously .. where is the compensation for this? are you going to let the seeds stay out longer now?

because what you are doing isnt addressing the problem that was created by the 'update'.

you are forcing me into the jungle riot. starting to practice it. and when i get it on par with my elo i dont plan on coming out till you fix zyra than i will shift back to her.

HELP THIS GIRL PROPERLY → Zyra http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m37gmxByRH1r9rjs4.gif

and yes they did nerf her base damage but they allowed her to harass more with more plants. check the patch notes when the update happened.

11 Comments

Vekkna3 votes

The seed passive is the problem in bot. Her spell damage is trash, and her W cooldown is ridiculously long.

Gut the passive and give us back the damage on our combo.

Teslyn1 votes

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The seed passive is the problem in bot. Her spell damage is trash, and her W cooldown is ridiculously long.

Gut the passive and give us back the damage on our combo.

atleast this guy gets it..

SaltyKracka2 votes

Oh noes, they nerfed an overpowered champion!

Get your head out of your ass.

Zach Sandwhich2 votes

If you honest to god think this rework reduced Zyra's damage then you've obviously never had to face her in lane. She is so oppressive that my ADC and I have quite literally been forced to stand halfway between the second and first towers to make sure we dont get absolutely raped by a Zyra who was still 0/0/0. Honestly sounds like your bitching about your favorite champion being nerfed despite them being way too good.

Teslyn1 votes

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If you honest to god think this rework reduced Zyra's damage then you've obviously never had to face her in lane. She is so oppressive that my ADC and I have quite literally been forced to stand halfway between the second and first towers to make sure we dont get absolutely raped by a Zyra who was still 0/0/0. Honestly sounds like your bitching about your favorite champion being nerfed despite them being way too good.

its in the patch notes. and with this tweek her damage is going to drop because she will have that additional poke removed.

i am sorry you cant make it to silver, but i doubt it is zyra's fault man.. from a higher level of play she isnt as oppressive as you would believe.

Zach Sandwhich2 votes

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its in the patch notes. and with this tweek her damage is going to drop because she will have that additional poke removed.

i am sorry you cant make it to silver, but i doubt it is zyra's fault man.. from a higher level of play she isnt as oppressive as you would believe.

Damn, quoting my rank really hurt considering I've played a full 12 games in ranked. I can't tell which patch notes you mean (The 6.9 Mage rework or the 6.13 patch.), but if your talking about the 6.13 then it was a wholly deserved damage reduction considering she was way too oppressive in and out of lane.

Teslyn1 votes

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Damn, quoting my rank really hurt considering I've played a full 12 games in ranked. I can't tell which patch notes you mean (The 6.9 Mage rework or the 6.13 patch.), but if your talking about the 6.13 then it was a wholly deserved damage reduction considering she was way too oppressive in and out of lane.

with your years of experience and wisdom .. please.. tell us what you would have them do?

gut every champ except your main?

Zach Sandwhich3 votes

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with your years of experience and wisdom .. please.. tell us what you would have them do?

gut every champ except your main?

First off I think this is appropriate

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/193125854941937664/197695807766396929/16mijq.png

Second off My mains getting those sweet sweet buffs (It's Leona btw). And no I don't want them to gut every champ besides my main. I really think a lot of champions need buffs, Corki comes to mind, and other champions I have a deep seeded need for them to be gutted so I never see them again, Hecarim coming to mind as of late.

The Last Ballad1 votes

I am lvl 6 on her(one more shard to 7 WOOT!) and I think that the nerfs would be good for her enemies. They still have to tread lightly, because they are far from destroying her.

Vekkna1 votes

II feel like you two are talking past one another, because you're both correct.

They did nerf the damage to plants and Q. OP is right about that fact.

You are correct that her redesign is completely toxic. Her pre-rework damage was higher, easier to land, and easier to combo, but it required AA range of like 600-ish which meant a ton of risk was involved in blowing someone up.

Now her plant damage is much lower, but it has no counterplay in bot at early levels. Low risk poke translates into more frequent poke. Playing against her in bot feels like you can't go anywhere without being zoned out immediately. That's frustrating and miserable. It's also shit design.

Teslyn2 votes

seriously .. people .. do you not see the pattern of them screwing up the chance to do something good with a rework or update.. and messing it up .. then slowly nerfing everything they did to the point the old one is better .

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