- "Aren't I already gated enough by a long cooldown? T_T"
EDIT: I'm not asking Riot to reduce it. I'm just pointing it out as strange since Amumu's ult already has a really long cooldown.
Xicashina43 votesI feel like we should coin a term thats instead of "First world problems" is "High win rate problems"
1 800 MID LANE16 votes
You called?
Remlap12237 votesCan 100-0 a tank with nothing but a BFS and Thunderlord's, but still can't have a cigar.
1 800 MID LANE3 votesIt's compensation for not having a cigar.
"We're sorry, Graves. Here, dominate top lane, jungle, and ADC." - Riot
Teridax689 votesRemlap122318 votesWhy does Vi and Veigar's ults cost 150 mana? Why does TF's cost 200? Lots of mana champs don't have normalized ultimate costs still. I'm surprised Sona got her costs normalized considering how much Riot hates her.
IcyPepper12 votesI'm surprised Sona got her costs normalized considering how much Riot hates her.
I think they did it to throw Sona mains a bone. If I remember the quote...
"Sona buffs. What a time to be alive."
It Hertz When IP2 votesBecause Veigar's is a really high-damage point-n-click, and he has built in mana regen boosting. TBH with only Morrello's as a mana item on him I've never run OOM after level 10-ish.
Dominick Destine13 votesAmumu is one of the highest damage tanks , with arguably the most reliable/hugely impactful ultimates in the game.
Balanced.
Shrek Luigi12 votes
lolwat
try not attacking him
Jorencice6 votesNone of amumu damage comes from being attacked??? Besides a cd bonus on hid E I guess...
YumaS2Astral11 votesNone of amumu damage comes from being attacked??? Besides a cd bonus on hid E I guess...
That cd bonus allow him to deal significantly more damage to you. That's what I think that he means with "try not attacking him"
That and the fact that Amumu can buy 
to further discourage you from auto-attacking
It Hertz When IP1 votesThat and the fact that Amumu can buy
Isn't that technically true for every champion?
Knoyle1 votesFrom what I understand the dmg is not all that devistating unless you are 
with max W.
Mistress Madoka1 votesOr Taric
Justsayin
Br4ndon3 votesThose champions lean more toward juggernauts than tanks. Their engage is running at the enemy and stickiness is single target. Kiting them is also pretty easy unless their name is Tahm Kench.
Dominick is right in that amumu is among the highest damage TANK. He is not the highest damage dealing juggernaut though.
GleamingTheMeta2 votes[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=N4ykzHc0,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-26T21:47:12.718+0000)
Amumu is one of the highest damage tanks , with arguably the most reliable/hugely impactful ultimates in the game.
Balanced.
Zed is one of the highest damage assassins in the game, with arguably the most reliable engages/disengages in the game.
Balanced
AlwaysByMySide1 votesZed is one of the highest damage assassins in the game, with arguably the most reliable engages/disengages in the game.
Balanced
Dominick Destine does not play Zed, hates Zed, and did not bring up Zed.
You thought your post was in some way relevant or clever, but it was, in fact, stupid.
ayNigerianPrince1 votes[{quoted}](name=Memeglaive Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=N4ykzHc0,comment-id=000100010001,timestamp=2016-01-27T08:33:17.230+0000) but it was, in fact, stupid.
Holy fuck save me from the cringe.
Im your Romeo6 votesfor real? his ult cost 200 ? 0.0 wth? (never pay aattention to him cause don't play him much but 200 DARN")
doombotMECHA6 votesi read the op in amumu's voice
Guy Fox Teemo4 votesIts an aoe nuke stun, would do you expect? (no cast time either)
KyroRayne2 votesI've brought this up last season as well. No one else has such a high ult mana cost.
NazZomLord2 votesWell. i guess being a jungler he does have access to blue buff along with his build generally picking up a Frozen heart or another rather large source of mana. This ult is usually also used towards the beginning or middle of a teamfight as it will be most effective then. Yes it does rather suck early but mid and late game mana is generally not a huge problem.
darkdill3 votesEven so, it's not consistent with what Riot's been doing for other Champion ultimates in terms of mana cost.
XIII Vanitas2 votesI play a lot of Amumu jungle and I've never had a problem with his mana costs. Frozen Heart is core on him and, once I get it, I don't even feel like I absolutely need to have blue buff.
Nukronic2 votesI used to play a lot of Amumu. Rarely did I not have enough mana ult. If I didn't it was probably because I was absolutely tearing the team apart and hadn't based in the last 10 minutes.
That was a while ago though so maybe his mana is worse in he jungle now idk.
Sammystorm2 votesAmumu doesn't really have mana problems past like 10 minutes though
King Odin2 voteshttp://grabilla.com/0611b-2a23ff12-92ec-4a66-8263-3782467b7672.png Hi, Amumu main here.
I have been asking myself this for quite awhile especially after the recent nerfs to his ult; his ult can be reduced by tenacity and I have felt this change quite a bit when peeling off tank since my ult simply isn't as effective anymore. I was hoping he would get some sort of compensation but I guess since not many people play him Riot didn't really care.
Honestly his mana pool mid-late game is not at lvl 16 866 mana. This means that his spells per rotation at lvl 16 with Q/E/R maxed is
Ult - 200
Bandage toss - 120 x 2
Tantrum - 35 x 4
This is not even adding his despair to the spell rotation, this means he'll be OOM after a teamfight usually and that's acceptable. Usually this forces Amumu mains to buy 
for that extra 400 Mana and he'll have a few more bandage tosses. \
I have for the longest time thought that Amumu's mana costs, like Sejuani's, should be reduced the more ranks put into the ability. This would simply mean that his early game would be sub par like it currently his but mid-late game would excel. I don't agree that he should have to take the blue from his mid laner to not go oom after a teamfight.
JeboteS1 votesCompensation?are we talking about the same champion,amumu does not need any compensation for the ult change,he is perfectly playable and is in a very good state...
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The Loveless1 votesReally that's the reason I don't play Amumu any more. He always goes oom even with a single mana item because his costs are way up there. Also he only blocks a few bits of physical damage. He's not naturally tanky IMO. It's always items that make him that way.
Biff Manly1 votesRemember when release Ekko's ult was free?
Stand Alone Wolf1 votesBecause you suffer.
Kr1sys1 votesIt's not like any of your other abilities cost mana
Only Play Darius1 votesBecause it's probably the strongest single ability in the game?
darkdill1 votesSo it's CD-gated. Doesn't mean mana ALSO has to gate it.
The Bearded Bard1 votesAs dumb as that is, he's not exactly the poster child for buffs atm.
Curling Veigar1 votesveigar's ult before the mini rework was 225 mana so it's whatever
Auroramancer1 votesMake the argument for why such a highly impactful, game changing ultimate, on a durable dps tank, should have a lower mana cost.
darkdill1 votesI'm not actually suggesting they reduce the cost. Just pointing it out when he's already got a huge cooldown on it.
Seenan1 votesIt pretty much wins games is why. Mumu can literally build full tanky AP and still never die while being a burster.
forresto1 votesbecause it's a skill with high base damage, decent AP scaling, long duration heavy cc, and an aoe practically the size of trundles battlefield.
Meep Man1 votesBecause he needs no buffs so making any changes might throw him into the cycle of buffs/nerfs.
Pentarina Only1 votesBecause that ability is already extremely overpowered.
FlippyGoneTrippy1 votesI noticed there's an amumu main in this thread complaining about his mana costs. I don't play amumu a lot but I find this surprising because the times I did pick him I never really ran out of mana. I can't remember what I built but I'm confident that Rod of Ages/ Iceborn/ Tear/ Frozen Heart usually made it into my builds.
I'm pretty sure most ults cost 100 mana. I actually can't think of any that don't (other than the obvious 0) but the only reason I see for changing Amu's would be bringing consistency across the board.
Solidair31 votesAll ultimate with non normalized costs are left with a high cost because of their incredible power. Not all ultimate abilities are "equal" in strength. Amumu has the ability to lock down an entire team for 2 seconds. Yes it is a long cool down, yes it has a high cost. But stopping all auto attacks AND movement for two seconds across a potential 5 players is insane and often ends with winning a game.
Amumu already has a high winrate. He always has. He always will. And it will ALWAYS be because of his ult.
Avios11 votes
"Because my Requiem has a 200 second cooldown"
SlashStriker1 votesi just notice that as well
But may you also point out that amumu does not give you any reaction time when he uses his ult. At the moment he presses R everyone on the in 1km range is instantly snared?
Nechronia1 votesAt least he's not singed, that 150 mana ultimate and 100 mana level 1 fling with a scaling mana cost.
