Dear Riot, Does every champion ability have to scale?

Josh Sand··1 votes·873 views

Would it be crazy to have a roster that included champions that were built specifically for the support role who just didn't scale with bonus AP or AD?

Some of the challenges in designing around supports:

Their items have to be cheap but useful Their items can be "abused" by other classes (Relic Shield, Locket, Frost Queens) You have to dissuade them from being abusive in a solo lane or jungle

If we had Supports that were based primarily on ability levels and stat growth:

  • Shields wouldn't scale out of control in the late game
  • You don't have to manage their income as much as you do now
  • Their numbers are easier to balance, because you don't have to worry about factoring items in
  • You can emphasize lower tier stats like Mana, HP regen, and Mana regen - making support-centric items easier to design
  • Support items wouldn't require high power budgets, so there can be a full menu of cheap Support items that other classes wouldn't consider using

We have infinite scaling champions, why not create some controlled scaling champions too? Supports are already on a limited income, just by nature of the role, so i think it makes sense that Support champions should be less about pumping up stats, and more about making smart decisions and plays to protect their team.

Also, please give supports more interesting tools than point and click shields and heals!

6 Comments

DW Diana1 votes

They problem with that is if they had no ap/ad scaling then they could just build tank. Imagine a champion that doesnt need to do damage to screw your whole team (janna), then give her 200 armour and Mr, plus 5k hp

Josh Sand1 votes

You can just reduce their HP scaling. Armor and MR only work when you have an effective pool of hit points keeping you alive.

Despite that, this design approach would be considered at the time of making a new champion, so you wouldn't have something like this on a support with a problem kit like Janna.

trunoob4131 votes

Every champion scales with ad though until they introduce a champion without ad ratios and that can't auto attack :p. I would like to see more champions that scale with other stats like health, armor/ magic resistance but idk about simply not scaling at all on abilities. Plus I imagine in order to balance a champion that has no scaling on any abilities that they'd have to have absurdly high base damage otherwise they go completly useless later on and plus it'd take away variety and make 70% of items completly useless on them.

Thorn Fierce Red1 votes

Scale Runes help scale abilities.

Kai Guy1 votes

Bard has 0 scaling on both E and R.

Onotori1 votes

What if I enjoy playing a typical support champ, but don't want to support? Lulu is one of my favorite champs, but I very rarely play her as a support. If any scaling was controlled by ability rank, then I wouldn't be able to play Lulu.

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