If my teammate can't think of anyone worth a ban, can someone else on the team use it instead? I don't care who gets it. It's just such a waste, given that four other people would be happy to make the choice in their place.
Arcade Lulu78 votesI honestly just hate people who ban 'none'
Recon12122 votesI had a "friend" who would do it just to piss everyone playing off. Like there is no reason not to ban someone you don't want on the other team it's pointless.
ModCaliCoastReplay2 votesThere is absolutely a reason to vote "None" sometimes in solo queue drafts.
Your ban choice is often a signifier of what lane you plan to play.
This can give information to the opposing team about where positions are in the draft order, and who is able to counterpick the opposing position.
By denying this information, you make it harder for the opposing team to plan their composition, particularly before your own champion choice is revealed.
It's rare that the utility of this strategy outweighs a ban against your worst matchup - but I've seen it used effectively, and done it myself before when on a particularly meta-favored champion with relatively few bad matchups.
Karunamon1 votesThere is absolutely a reason to vote "None" sometimes in solo queue drafts.
Your ban choice is often a signifier of what lane you plan to play.
This can give information to the opposing team about where positions are in the draft order, and who is able to counterpick the opposing position.
By denying this information, you make it harder for the opposing team to plan their composition, particularly before your own champion choice is revealed.
It's rare that the utility of this strategy outweighs a ban against your worst matchup - but I've seen it used effectively, and done it myself before when on a particularly meta-favored champion with relatively few bad matchups.
True, but in the elos where most players play this game, irrelevant.
ModCaliCoastReplay1 votesI disagree. I'm a middle-of-the-road Silver and it def matters in ranked games even at my level.
I would argue it matters a lot as you go up the ladder, too.
Noor Sakata41 votesGuys upvote this with me please !
FloppyNoodleMan2 votes[{quoted}](name=Noor Sakata,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BRyP7p1Y,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-12T17:10:12.675+0000)
Guys upvote this with me please !
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Noor Sakata1 votesBack then when I commented that the Thread was downvoted and I was the only comment lol
WeeWeeBojangles36 votesCan we also agree to perma ban people who don't use a ban then end up losing the game.
Saezio26 votesMaybe simply make everyone ban 1 champ and hoverban another and depending on if someone bans "none" one of the hoveredbans is chosen and banned randomly
shipo132 votesor just make default ban system:
Mokuto Bunshi15 votesIn my case I have 1 exception. If I play norms for a ranked warm up, I want the enemy to hit me with their main role so I can get that warmup. In ranked though Yeah, pass the ban.
Akali is SO HOT14 votesThat's a good idea
Deliberate Inter13 votes[{quoted}](name=ixi Josh Sand,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BRyP7p1Y,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-02-12T17:05:17.581+0000)
If my teammate can't think of anyone worth a ban, can someone else on the team use it instead? I don't care who gets it. It's just such a waste, given that four other people would be happy to make the choice in their place.
There are people who deliberately choose to ban none, if you give a pass option fine but keep the none option. Especially true for competitive players who want to practice vs what is good, Faker is known to do this
Gramps693 votesNot necessarily, Faker used to just always ban Garen since he was the first champ that would come up alphabetically for Korea
letsfeedtogether12 votesReally good idea.
Leadboo11 votesGood Idea
Z3Sleeper10 votesBetter yet, make it auto-ban the current highest banrate champion.
RIP Yasuo mains.
Reaper Soraka10 votesSometimes I ban None to intimidate the enemy team.
It's kinda like saying...idk wtf you pick. your destiny is in stone.
Cowseed9 votesI ban "none" because I want to play against every champ out their. Stop your whining.
Saezio8 votesI love this idea, I think it would be best if they made it so that people lock in "secondary bans too" so the ban and pick phase is not prolonged.
I seriously also think less people would ban "none" if they knew others would use the ban
MustardTigerMK8 votesYou can't take away someones free will from them because you want an extra champ banned. I bet people could come up with 1,000,001 reasons why one would choose to not ban a champ, mostly all of them wouldn't make sense but for sure some reasons would and therefor ecto facto "none" option must stay. You're welcome Riot, NEXT!.
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DeusVult7 votesSome people ban "none" not because they cant think of a ban, but because the champ that they play has a high ban rate and they want that champ to get through the ban phase. If they ban a different champ, then you could possibly ban their champ. If you get their ban because they dont ban, the same thing could occur.
Cantrip12 votesHover your pick? Solves that issue
smol green boi5 votesExcept, it doesn't. I've definitely had my hover banned by teammates plenty of times.
hrooza dota 6 votespass ban
ally ban your intent pick
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CasterGilgamesh6 votesi hate this idea becuase i chose none so that i can actually get game play experience against all champions banning what OP is a crutch i dont want to use
Bisaknosp4 votesplay blindpick then?
CasterGilgamesh3 votesi quite blind pick for how toxic it is
Anei Neko5 votesThen which of the other 4 players get to choose the passed ban? What if multiple people end up passing? Some people don't want to ban anyone, because they don't care or want to try against said champs, and that's their prerogative. You have the option of dodging if someone does that and you don't like how champ select turned out, you have the option even if someone doesn't end up not banning anyone. IMO you are asking for a "feature" that will cause more toxicity in implementation than the "problem" (not everyone feels it is) that you are asking to be solved.
Akali Prime4 voteswhen i see someone ban "none" i think, "woah we got a badass overhere"
[slayer-jinx-unamused]
Meat Beat Mania3 votesIs this gonna force another ban phase or something?
Quiet Dude3 votesNow we want to punish people who dont want to ban a champion? Will the boards ever be satisfied?
Also, what stops them from banning an absolutely useless champion instead, like Azir or Akali? Basically a non ban. Next, the boards will cry out for punishments for mastery builds and skill max order.
You guys need to grow up. People are allowed to have choices in this game. This is league of legends, not China.
Weiner the Pooh2 votesHow is this in any way "punishment"? If anyone is punishing anyone its the guy not banning. Not banning does nothing but hinder your team.
Quiet Dude2 votesGiving your ban to someone else simply because you choose not to ban anyone is punishment enough. Its like saying that person's choice doesnt matter. If someone bans "none", they banned "none", they dont need the game saying "oh you obviously dont know what youre doing, lets let your team decide for you".
If you can't handle a "none" ban, maybe don't play. People are allowed to choose and ban whom they want, or no one at all. Jfc all this crying over bans. I've encountered a handful of people who got upset I didn't ban anyone, my only regret was I didn't ban their intended pick. Give them something real to cry about.
Weiner the Pooh3 votesIts frustrating wasting something as valuable as a ban. They're are so many frustrating and broken champs in the game. Why ban nothing when you can ban Karthus or Lucian, something frustrating. Why not take one of those out of the game? There is no benefit to not banning.
Bishasaurus Flex1 votesYou missed the point...I don't think that's what OP is trying to say. They don't want a ban to go to waste. It could ask something like this: "Your team has one more ban! Would you like to ban one more champion?"
team votes yes or no
"Vote for the next ban, majority vote gets the pick!"
At least that's how I think it would best work.
Fighter Ignite13 votesIt should give it to the person under them. If they are at the bottom, it should give it to the person at the top.
MustardTigerMK3 votesThis community is full of toxic people searching for toxicity in everything everyone does. Amazing how you can turn someone choosing not to ban a champ as such a negative thing. I personally barely see someone do it anyways...this community loves getting tilted over everything, you crave it, you must report everything to riot if you get upset.
sobi9991 votesSince when did OP regard "not banning" as negative? Banning is an asset and each team has limited of them. The OP is trying to make the point that such assets should be allowed to be reused by team mates since it is a team game you know.
If you do not see ban as an asset then this discussion is complete.
Stupafly3 votesUnpopular opinion: I dont care if people ban something or 'none'
BrightWîngs2 votesThis.... like honestly
rayzo2 votesI love this idea. Riot please hire this man.
MustardTigerMK1 votesWhy would you hire someone when they've already given you their best work for free? This idea isn't that great and doesn't appeal to everyone. I'm personally impartial to the idea as people banning a champ or not rarely affects me and I haven't seen a valid argument of why this is even a good idea other than "It ticks me off that people don't ban"..... what if it ticks people off when you take away the option to not ban? Do those people not matter?
MustardTigerMK1 votes320 people? How many people play the game? Over 60 million, 27 million daily. So out of 27 million daily players, 320 liked this comment so that makes it a great idea? Wow I'm sold! I asked for someone to come up with a reason other than it makes them mad when someone doesn't ban someone. Still waiting...
Fegone2 votesyou have to understand, for some people this game is just too easy. And if they want a real challenge, they don't ban a champion, which equals setting the difficulty level from "easy" to "medium".
The next step is hard feeding for the first 10 minutes, "medium" -> "hard" The next step is unconventional builds, e.g. AP Talon: "hard" -> "nightmare" The next step is going afk for 15min and then returning, being 5 levels below everyone else: "nightmare" -> "hell"
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MessyStuff1 votesI would add another option like this instead of replacing it.