Can we talk about Duskblade's vision denial?

Chief Mayonnaise·8/17/2018, 1:27:22 AM·27 votes·9,842 views

If i'm playing any squishy champion without cc, my only counterplay to assassins will be staying as far away from them as I can. The only time I can pretty much go out of my base is if an area is well warded by me and my team. Warding totems CD starts at 4 minutes and scales down to 120 at lvl 18. Why is it that I have to use a 180 avg cd as well as spend gold to ward an area, just to have a presence in part of the jungle, while somebody with duskblade can just get rid of those wards and make gold with it, on a 90 sec cd. If somebody is quick enough, they might take out multiple wards too.

I understand why I have to keep a large distance between me and the assassin. But why does it have to be so easy for them to get rid of the little counterplay I have against them.

16 Comments

Warlord Rhinark8/17/2018, 8:12:37 AM14 votes

What's really fucked up is that Zombie Ward now gives extra damage for clearing a ward, meaning the vision denial on Duskblade now equals to even more damage.

Seriously, why the fuck is Zombie Ward a damage rune now.

Cramnok8/17/2018, 5:31:49 AM9 votes

Because vision = safety = less fights and Riot doesn't want that.

It sucks but hey what can you do?

An Enemy Sutando8/17/2018, 12:48:02 PM9 votes

Just remove duskblade already. They've tried on 3 separate occasions to balance it and failed.

5050BS8/17/2018, 9:57:23 AM4 votes

Dushblade is an overloaded item, just like about every champ that uses it.

Glory978/17/2018, 9:06:30 AM3 votes

As a team you have enough tools to build up good vision even when the enemy has duskblade. And as carry there is no probelem in letting your frontline advance first and checking out places the enemy assassin can hide. If you play smart, duskblade's vision denial shouldn't be a probleme.

Yes I do think that assassins are too strong in the current meta, but if something is nerfed, please don't target the vision denial part of duskblade. Remove a good ammount of their damage instead.

Because when there is a peel-support in your backline, the only way assassins can accomplish anything in the game is to play arround vision perfectly and burst the carry before the peel-supp can react / or when the carry is out of position. (because if they can't assassinate the are completly useless)

If riot removes the vision denial, which is significant for an assassin that isnt super fed to at least do something against a peel-supports, they would just push assassins further to "feast or famine", as they are missing options to play when they are behind/ against champs that counter assassins

Ulquiorra01238/17/2018, 2:15:45 PM2 votes

The ward goes out, you know they are there. Congrats :) There is a map, use it.

rayzo8/17/2018, 4:03:44 PM2 votes

buy item 2055

RebeccaUCuber8/17/2018, 4:41:18 PM2 votes

When all my item 3098 Wards are gutted in a single Duskblade clear

[sg-soraka]

HJTBB8/17/2018, 9:53:25 AM1 votes

Tbh it’s so fun to have a constant red trinket for 2900 gold Your team gets to know where they have vision at all times if they just mouse over you and check if you have the buff or not It’s so fun and so broken