If the cinderhulk immolate is supposed to be awesome if you stay engaged with the enemy, then shouldn't it start out at 24+1 and increase to 36+1.5 or something instead of always doing less damage than sunfire cape during a fight (since sunfire starts out at 24 already).
Traust2 votesDon't forget the +350 health and + 25% bonus health increase on top of smite effects from the jungler item which will keep you there longer too!
Fed by Snu Snu1 votesDon't forget the +350 health and + 25% bonus health increase on top of smite effects from the jungler item which will keep you there longer too!
Ye, it will take 3 criticals instead of 2.
Tons of combat uptime.
At least Jungle Sion got a really valuable stat back, because the removal of golem and its bonus health increase did impact him a lot.
IcyPepper1 votesCinderhulk is more cost-efficient, I guess? If sunfire's cape was worst (and costing more), nobody would buy it and go for cinderhulk, and go on to build 
or something to replace warrior.
Nebuul1 votesYou have to have Smite to buy cinderhulk.
ZephyrDrake1 votesYou have to have Smite to buy cinderhulk.
and?
IcyPepper1 votes...
Most tank/bruiser junglers buy sunfire's cape (or at least a lot do).
Icepaw1 votesOnly jungler will have cinderhulk, so its kind of a tank-jungler item only. Regular tanks will have to buy Sunfire. Nebuul are making a point of tombdragons post, that dosent undestand the difference..
DragonShea1 votesGonna be interesting to see who Cinderhulk is going to work out. damage starts at (15+1) per level and increases up to 100% when in fights that is quite a lot if the tanks survives long enough
Talamare1 votesCinderhulk does upto 60 damage Sunfire does upto 40
edit, didnt see they changed it in PBE
CH was nerfed to 51 max (Sunfire is 43 max)