Get Rid of Plants--here is why

Failog·Dec 7, 2016·4 votes·905 views

So I'm taking dragon and....wtf, a jumps over the wall via a plant!

Different champions have different strengths. Hecarim for example doesn't have a dive or jump to get over wall, except his ult

Plants that give an ability to champion that doesn't inherently have it homogenizes the champions and also is biased in favor champs that lack a jump ability. If I am running a champion that has a jump, where is my jungle plant that gives me the ability that others have that I lack?

Riot just won't let champions stand or fall on the strengths or deficits of their kits, and that is slowly ruining the game.

23 Comments

KaiokoDec 7, 20163 votes

The difference in if you have a jump ability is that not only are you able to jump into the dragon pit, you're also able to get back out. Giving an ability to everyone does not somehow negate the ones you already had. Hecarim in that example would've been forced to use his ultimate to get out.

FailogDec 7, 20161 votes

That is all well and good. But some champions kits don't have that ability. Their kit is loaded and drawback is lack of a jump or dive. This means that one of their inherent weakness is the inability to easily get over or through walls. I don't care if the jumping champions now has 2 jumps. The point is that the other non jumping champion just had a huge restriction lifted because of these plants.

TyrekGoldenspearDec 7, 20161 votes

What Kaioko said.

Plus, you can clearly see every plant through the fog of war, this shouldn't be surprising.

Also, the presence of blast cones makes it possible for some champs to finally let go of flash and try other summoners combinations.

FailogDec 7, 20161 votes

Sorry but the whole plant idea just reeks of a company desperately train to do something creative. Forced creativity doesn't work. No one was complaining about not enough stuff in the Jungle. That is just Riot thinking they have to keep making changes.

TyrekGoldenspearDec 7, 20161 votes

Or this is you not wanting plants and looking for reasons to trash them.

Trust me, they aren't desperate.

FailogDec 7, 20161 votes

They are actually. They keep making changes that we all hate because they are so concerned about getting new players they give the finger to the old ones. Remember how they decided for us that solo que was no good, and we all had to yell at them for an entire year until they decided to put solo que back? If they were calm and reasonable they wouldn't have rushed into so many changes they make. But they aren't. Their actions is evidence to that.

TyrekGoldenspearDec 7, 20161 votes

Don't say we all.

It's a blanket statement that just isn't true.

Also I started February of this year so I was always exposed to DQ from the start.

RogueWillDec 8, 20161 votes

Well..jungle has changed practically every season, from items to camps to exp and gold available. Is literally the only role you have to re-learn ever pre-season.

TyrekGoldenspearDec 8, 20161 votes

Hmm.

I main Mid and support, so I wouldn't know all that.

Thanks for the clarification.

FailogDec 8, 20161 votes

Its a general statement that you are supposed to read as "a lot of players".

Colgate GatorDec 7, 20161 votes

While I'm not a fan of the plants, I'm forced to disagree because your argument was. "I got outplayed because of X aspect of the game, remove it!"

FailogDec 7, 20161 votes

That isn't my argument. My argument is that it makes champions more alike and thereby compensates for their weakness, which begs the argument why even have weakness if Riot is just going to put plants and items that fix the champions inherent problems?

Lux HDDec 7, 20161 votes

Why didn't you kill the plant before trying to sneak a dragon?

FailogDec 7, 20161 votes

Wasn't sneaking it, didnt' come from that side.

Commit SudokuDec 7, 20161 votes

kill the plant before you start the dragon hurr durr

FailogDec 7, 20161 votes

Didnt come from that side numbnuts

BreakuDec 7, 20161 votes

So kill it from over the wall?

Commit SudokuDec 7, 20162 votes

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Didnt come from that side numbnuts

what is stopping ur adc/mage champion to proc it over the wall so they cant use it?

its not like the plant is something you couldn't plan for or play around your just complaining because you didnt think that it could be used against you

midnight oil24Dec 8, 20161 votes

Yeah. The author is just complaining because they didn't think about how to work around the new opportunities provided.

midnight oil24Dec 8, 20161 votes

So it's like how items allow champs to get new abilities and passives to make up for the deficits of their kits?

FailogDec 8, 20161 votes

Yes. Items are out of control. They do too much and sync much better with some champions than others.

BeatzBoyFTWDec 8, 20161 votes

So you want plants removed just because either your Dragon timing is bad or the fact that your team didn't really give a fuck to ward around the red jungle for incoming enemy team.

FailogDec 9, 20161 votes

That's not what I am saying, and you know that is not what I am saying. You just want that to be what I am saying because its easier to argue against me as a person instead of addressing the core issue I raised.