A question about supports

Espurr VI·Jan 23, 2016·1 votes·298 views

What do bring to a fight that can help their ADC?

I mean, Heals are pretty nice, as are shields and other buffs... but champs like have much stronger CC, and are also able to lane bully the squishy supports out.

To me, it feels like squishy supports are outclassed by the tankier ones because the tanks have more CC and are more reliable in team fights.

Does anyone else feel this way?

6 Comments

TNHA BaritoneJan 23, 20162 votes

Lulu Nami and Janna can compete with MANY if not ALL tank Supports. Zilean, Sona, and other squishy supports I would predict struggle due to their lack of raw peel. Their kits seem like they could be great for supporting when you look at it from a far, but as you zoom in you see that supports need raw peel in multiple forms. Just buffing your ADC or Making them go fast isn't gonna do crap for them when a Rengar 1 shots them.

The Voids CallJan 23, 20161 votes

in order poke/poke/global mobility/poke/poke

Espurr VIJan 23, 20161 votes

Braum, Leona, Thresh, and Tahm can poke as well, and are better at it due to being able to soak up more damage as well.

QuephaJan 23, 20162 votes

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Braum, Leona, Thresh, and Tahm can poke as well, and are better at it due to being able to soak up more damage as well.

Leona can't poke at all, do you know how her E works?

All the others can have their poke blocked by minions which is a massive disadvantage. None of their poke compares to any of the mage supports you mentioned.

ShaftyMegeeJan 23, 20161 votes

It's all in terms of matchups, as a taric main I HATE LULU with a passion, and a few others including soraka. I don't really feel as if there is an order to this operation like the others are saying... It depends from champ to champ imo

Lovely PantsJan 23, 20161 votes

Both flavors of support have certain team comps which will amplify their success. Tanky supports in general do have a more effortless feel of contributing to a win in a disorganized environment and are more generally easy picks across any meta. Right now I don't think I'd say that most of the squishy supports are outclassed, though.

Zilean I believe should be a more situational pick as he really isn't the most reliable lane partner. You usually would pick him more for the rest of your team comp and with a more self-reliant carry. His synergy with hard scaling fighters is really good. Personally, I don't think most of the tank supports give him as much issue as the heavier poke and sustain supports who will out trade his damage and force his carry back.

Janna Soraka Lulu are ridiculously good at saving their teammates. Lulu particularly is notoriously impossible to outtrade when she is strong. Janna doesn't offer as much offensive pressure, but has huge disengage at all points of the game. Soraka is more vulnerable herself than any other squishy support, but is great at making a strong front line stronger and adds some global pressure.

Nami and Sona are both generalists. The former more defensively-oriented. They can both flip more easily than the others between offering defensive or offensive pressure, though.

Frankly, if tanky supports are able to bully out the others in lane it's usually simply due to inferior positioning and strategy on the opposite side or combination with pressure from the jungle/other lanes (Not taking into account numerical imbalance, of course).