@Meddler Context on Elise Q rework?

Tourian·8/7/2015, 4:05:24 PM·16 votes·1,845 views

I'm super excited about the Q becoming a DOT, it's something I suggested a couple months ago (although I'm not arrogant enough to assume it hasn't been suggested before) to make her easier to balance. Couple questions:

1: Is the 1 second CD an attempt to bring her back to laning or just to make her teamfighting presence more pronounced? 2: The mana cost is exceptionally high/range low for what it does now, can we expect changes? 3: I assume its a bug but it isn't applying on-hits at the moment. And how can we expect this new Q to interact with spellvamp and Rylai's when/if they do apply?

Also it might be cool to have ranks in R effect this spell's CD/Duration/Mana Cost/Range.

(Also Death Blossom Chroma #takemymoney)Elise

13 Comments

Hupsis8/7/2015, 4:14:11 PM1 votes

Omg yes to Death Blossom chroma.

I hope the mana cost gets reduced at least in the early ranks.

Would be cool if her cocoon somehow interacted with the new Q. Like increase the poison duration by few seconds or something.

TurquoiseYoshi8/7/2015, 5:10:27 PM1 votes

I honestly don't mind the high mana cost/low range. Because Elise is kinda OP right now.

Celeste Benal8/7/2015, 5:40:58 PM1 votes

80 mana for a 1 sec CD Q that does so little damage is way too expensive.

Also, putting a spammable DoT on a champ that likes to build both item 3151 and item 3116 seems a little risky.

Conturbatio8/7/2015, 7:33:40 PM1 votes

Honestly the ratio on the reworked Q is garbage, (equal to cassiopeia's Q ratio). I mean, 180 (+45% AP)? defuq. Why not a 80%-70% ratio?

EDIT: Oops I'm so fucking blind, didn't see the 1 second cooldown, well, this is GREAT :D

Dracid8/7/2015, 7:38:09 PM1 votes

i feel like the DOT change will bring her back to being a top laner like she was a couple seasons ago. It's not really that great for a jungler who doesn't really harass early game

Tourian8/7/2015, 7:49:52 PM1 votes

Elise Neurotoxin (Human Q) [Cooldown increased to 6 seconds from 1]

Well boys this is from today. Looks like its just intended as a nerf.

Akindled Soul8/8/2015, 6:46:46 AM1 votes

I'm curious if they're considering making Elise's reworked Q interact with Cassiopeia's kit. Originally back then, they made some champions abilities interact with Cassiopeia (Twitch's passive (Don't think it interacts anymore), Singed's Poison Trail [Q], etc.) Since they're calling Elise's reworked Q "poison". Would be rather interesting to see when the two are on the same team.