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Lets have a civilized discussion about Voice Comms.

Theorex··1 votes·939 views

Alright first lets get these things right the fuck out of the way.

1: Voice comms are toxic, for many individuals.

2: Voice comms are often abused and not used properly.

3: Voice comms lead to harassment.

4: Voice comms can cause language barrier issues.

5: Voice comms are not needed for league of legends.

These are the arguments I have heard against adding voice comms to League of Legends.

1: Voice comms are toxic, for many individuals.

  • Whats the difference between a text log and a voice comm. If the person is going to be an asshole, the person is going to be an asshole. You have the same function to mute the person then report the person after the game. If you are that thin skinned to where insults on the internet from a person you do not know NOR SHOULD CARE ABOUT hurt your feelings. Perhaps you shouldn't be on the internet. As a person who has been a internet child since god knows when. The internet is unmoderated and will tear every value of anything you believe in just because it can. If you don't agree with someone then you are against someone. That is how the internet operates (for the most part). This isn't even just a League thing. This is a people thing. Sorry, but the world isn't a nice place. You have to make it nice for yourself.

2: Voice comms are often abused and not used properly.

  • Yes, that happens everywhere. In any video game. People will use the voice comms to play music, scream profanities, etc. Again. There is a mute button. That singlehandedly takes care of that issue.

3: Voice comms lead to harassment.

  • I know its hard to believe this, but not everyone is an asshole. I know that females (please do not fucking turn this into a "I Identify as..." argument, this is for the sake of the majority.) will more often than males be harassed for being a female. Ranging from "Haha! The Female is a support!" to "Females should only play support!" Again people are assholes, but to be fair. Females are better at dealing with this toxicity since.. ya'know its been a thing forever now. I am not saying it is alright nor should the female have to deal with it. It just is how it is. And again, there is a mute option.

4: Voice comms can cause language barrier issues.

  • That is the price they pay for playing on a server that they don't understand the language of. It happens. (I would find it hard to believe that they don't at least know some of the lingua franca. If you don't know what that means, then only stay on these servers.) This isn't just to League this is in every video game ever when someone from a foreign country comes to play in the US without knowing English. Or Americans go to another country and play on their servers (as long as it isn't tied into the US servers. So fuck off if you say Canada.)

5: Voice comms are not needed for League of Legends.

  • Alright lets go with this argument. Lets take two of the best pro teams and take away voice comms from them. See how the game dynamic changes. Voice comms have an always will be essential to anything when working with a team. Not even just video games. Imagine if Riot teams didn't communicate with each other. Everything would fall to shambles stupidly fast. To say that a team oriented video game does not need communication is stupid. Then if you are going to say "We have pings! We can use those and chat to communicate properly!" Then explain to me how I tell my team what to during a stand off. Lets say I am a god tier typer and I have a Thresh, Vayne, Maokai, and Xin on my team. I am malzahar. Now I want to tell my team to do the following and it takes me 3 seconds to type all of this. " I am going to flash on the enemy ADC the second they are out of place. Then ulti them. Mao please follow up with your root because they will instantly QSS. This will give me and Vayne time to kill them. Afterwards these will focus on peeling for vayne as Xin knocks everyone else back with his ulti. We can then chase them with Mao ulti and vayne as thresh and I CC them to stop them from killing vayne." How long did that take you to read? How do I communicate that to the team with pings? How far back did I have to step in order to type that safely? How long did it take me to get back into position? Did the standoff break because someone took some stupid poke damage?

So to say that text and pings are enough for voice comms is stupid. If it were why aren't we using things like that in work forces? Text is used yes, but when it comes down to split second decisions. Voice is 1000x better than Text and Pings.

If you agree or disagree please explain to me why? I would love to know so that I can at least get an idea of where you are coming from, as I am still only human and may have missed something myself. But I personally believe that this is still better for the community as a whole.

9 Comments

Colgate Gator3 votes

You see, I read all your points, but I can retort with that I'd rather see someone typing random toxic shit and simply mute them than to be graced with someone screeching on my ear before I'm able to mute them. Such as it was my experience when me and two friends decided to recruit two random people for Clash and it was downright miserable until I finally muted the person in question.

Besides, I'm not always in the mood to speak through a microphone, specially with random strangers. Then there's the issue that by adding open voice chat, that now becomes the default channel for communication, and then people are going to whine and threaten to report you if you choose to simply type and ping (I've had that happen in Overwatch).

Then there's the issue that while I can speak english just fine, I had an overly thicc Mexican accent, so that adds yet another unwanted channel for harrasment.

So, yeah, no thanks.

Theorex1 votes

Again, you don't have to use it. Fuck what other people say. If you aren't toxic and don't use voice. Who gives a shit. Let them report you. Riot won't ban you for not getting involved. They will only ban you for being toxic and retaliating.

But the fact that people want this game to not improve in a simple manner is kind of just depressing.

The fact that the good outweigh the bad, but people only see the bad. Is all that I need to see.

You are coming at this from a negative perspective. How about when you work together and completely destroy the enemy team? How about when you make a new friend via voice comms? How about meeting chill people who also don't talk but are cool af? You can literally spin those reasons around to the other side as well.

We can't be using personal bias and fear to dictate why we do or don't do things.

If you let fear and personal bias control what you get and improve, then you aren't living life. You are instead just letting life lead you in ways you don't want to go.

But that is just my thought. I live a content life, because I don't give two shits about anyone else and live my life regret and fear free as much as possible.

FOR JUSTICE2 votes

overwatch has the exact same toxicity problem WITH voice chat.

this one statement more or less shuts down arguments 1, 2, and 3, being that its the same problem with chat not being efficient enough, but people still being toxic enough to be suspended, even with a mute button present.

4 is more or less a person specific problem, because I can live in NA but only speak in Chinese, therefore im playing on my home server but still cant speak English.

5 is a legitimate argument.

Theorex1 votes

Yes, But on that same note. The benefits of having voice comms for a competitive game outweigh the negatives.

Khristophoros2 votes

It's not very useful when you're playing with randoms.

Theorex1 votes

Its pretty useful when I play with randoms on CS:GO, OW, Rainbow Six Siege, and Dota... I don't know what to say lol

Bijeesny1 votes

If games like CSGO and DoTA can do just fine with voice comms I don't see a reason why League couldn't...not to mention CSGO doesn't moderate what people are saying on it, and seeing how much people are worried about the toxicity because of the voice that, one would think CSGO is a toxic wasteland...and yet it's not.

I'm all for voice chat, if you don't like it, don't use it [slayer-jinx-catface]

Theorex2 votes

THANK YOU.

THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING.

Its not like CS:GO, OW, R6Siege, etc FORCE you to use voice comms. You can function without them. Its just easier to work with.

Bijeesny1 votes

{quoted}

THANK YOU.

THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING.

Its not like CS:GO, OW, R6Siege, etc FORCE you to use voice comms. You can function without them. Its just easier to work with.

Wanna hear another good thing bout voice chat? Raging kiddies :D I'll never forget when I watched one video where a kid lost his shit on dota, 5+ mins of deadly laugh I think I would pass out from laughin if I encounter shit like that in League, especially if it's one who can't speak english properly xD

Edit: accidentally misspelled and it turned out to be c-word in 'encounter' xD

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