So Riot's excuse to a troll system is "it could be abused"...

Shroom Junkie··5 votes·495 views

Basically, some poor soul of a toxic 4-man premade that want every role they want or they'll all troll and feed, can get kicked and punished for not complying. But why not add it?

Seriously, at the moment, at lower elos, probably at least 1/4 of games have trolls. Feeders, afk'ers, people that just plain won't follow pick order and will go double mid because they didn't want support. But with this, sure, some people would be affected, but I doubt those people that are being trolled by premades haven't been trolled before by trolls, or heck, premade trolls. There's almost no difference, the random guy has to dodge or face a whole game of toxicity, and overall just no fun. So with this system, we could probably cut trolling in half or maybe more. You could say "the ends don't justify the means" but it really does when it comes to the fact that the few people being punished are going to be punished by trolls and premades anyway. There's almost no way to get away from it and implementing it only to have it stop half of the trolls is more than enough reason to implement it.

The only other reason I see is non-meta picks being kicked. But lets be honest, people troll and feed because of off-meta picks anyway so the same problem would be presented. And this wouldn't be near as much of a problem if Riot would just let us report people out of the end-game screen.

Edit: ... I feel like since Luck5962 trollposted everyone is now downvoting me. Everyone knows what I fucking meant. ;-; Its like a mini circle jerk.

8 Comments

luckmallory4 votes
  1. Doing double mid or double jungle is not trolling unless they aren't trying to win. Breaking the meta is not trolling.

  2. Feeding is not trolling unless it is intentional. If someone feeds 12 kills but they are trying, there is nothing wrong with that. They just happen to be bad at the game. They shouldn't be punished for that.

  3. You don't get a troll 1/4 games. You just get pissed that you lose and blame the people who did bad or picked off meta picks and say they "trolled" like every other low elo player does

Shroom Junkie1 votes

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  1. Doing double mid or double jungle is not trolling unless they aren't trying to win. Breaking the meta is not trolling.

Don't be a bitch, you know exactly what I mean.

  1. Feeding is not trolling unless it is intentional. If someone feeds 12 kills but they are trying, there is nothing wrong with that. They just happen to be bad at the game. They shouldn't be punished for that.

But when they are feeding intentionally its obvious, and they should. "mid or feed"

doesn't get mid proceeds to feed oh but they just suck and no proof that they are intentionally feeding so they get off

  1. You don't get a troll 1/4 games. You just get pissed that you lose and blame the people who did bad or picked off meta picks and say they "trolled" like every other low elo player does

I've actually not gotten trolled many times because I try to work with the team and give people their preferred lanes. However watching my brother and other low elos in a game, plus being in normal games where people don't care if they win or lose, I've seen at least 1/4 of the games trolled. And not just bad or off meta picks or what the fuck ever, I mean intentional feeding, intentional trolling, and you know exactly what I mean.

Do not be a bitch. It only makes you sound stupid.

luckmallory1 votes

Sounds like the only bitch here is the crying Silver

redniwediS1 votes

Honestly if I queue up and get put with a toxic premade I would WANT to be kicked. They just saved me the trouble of dodging to avoid 20+ minutes of harassment just for the sake of a few reports I can make with screenshots and a support ticket anyway.

Sagee Prime1 votes

Simple solution. Both the target of kick and the person who starts the kick get punished if the kick goes through. Basically a queue dodge penalty. I the person that got kicked is kicked again they get an increased penalty(just like queue dodge) but the person who starts the kick only receives the same initial penalty unless he too is kicked in a game later on.

Have a report feature in the kick feature so you and your teammates know why they got kicked. An LP penalty wouldn't be included but could be a possibility for re-offenders.

Shroom Junkie1 votes

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Simple solution. Both the target of kick and the person who starts the kick get punished if the kick goes through. Basically a queue dodge penalty. I the person that got kicked is kicked again they get an increased penalty(just like queue dodge) but the person who starts the kick only receives the same initial penalty unless he too is kicked in a game later on.

Have a report feature in the kick feature so you and your teammates know why they got kicked. An LP penalty wouldn't be included but could be a possibility for re-offenders.

Wait... what are you saying? To punish people who try and kick someone? That would only keep trolls coming. Sure, they'd get punished, but whoever had the balls to start a kick would be too.

Sagee Prime1 votes

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Wait... what are you saying? To punish people who try and kick someone? That would only keep trolls coming. Sure, they'd get punished, but whoever had the balls to start a kick would be too.

Not a harsh punishment. Just a time punishment. If it's truly worth it to kick the guy then it's worth it for a 6 minute wait rather than a 20 minute losing game due to a troll.

The Sword Saint1 votes

They aren't working on the exact solution your talking about because they've already solved the problem internally and are just polishing it up for release when it won't rock the boat, probably at the preseason. It's called 'ranked teambuilder' and it's going to replace the normal ranked solo/duo que. They've been posting about it for a while now.

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