JESUS, how do Maokai mains jungle him or even play him at all?
He's mana hungry AF His tankiness isn't all that great compared to others and his damage is beyond the weakest thing I have ever experienced.
After the mage/assassin update, there better be a damn Tank update too
Akenero4 votesMaokai jungle has amazing sustain, and godlike ganks
junglerboy161 votesWhen's the last time you actually played Maokai jungle mate? His sustain is mediocre, he is extremely mana hungry, and his gank power got crippled when they reworked him, not to mention the plethora of damage nerfs he's received since the rework.
Believe me, I mained jungle Maokai for over a year and he is a ghost of his season 4 self. He used to be a ganking powerhouse that made picks like Jarvan and Lee Sin (who are known for their ganks) look lame, and his sustain actually used to be enough to get through a clear.
They neutered his jungle damage, ganking power, and sustain in exchange for minimal mana fixes (he's still extremely mana hungry).
4NoxiousHours1 votesWhen's the last time you actually played Maokai jungle mate? His sustain is mediocre, he is extremely mana hungry, and his gank power got crippled when they reworked him, not to mention the plethora of damage nerfs he's received since the rework.
Believe me, I mained jungle Maokai for over a year and he is a ghost of his season 4 self. He used to be a ganking powerhouse that made picks like Jarvan and Lee Sin (who are known for their ganks) look lame, and his sustain actually used to be enough to get through a clear.
They neutered his jungle damage, ganking power, and sustain in exchange for minimal mana fixes (he's still extremely mana hungry).
He is extremely mana hungry and when a mid laner says " can I blue? " I cringe.
PogChampEleGiggl2 votesAfter the mage update
lol wtf? They literally did nothing but lower the damage numbers, make the mana system super generic, and increase the price for every mage item. if you can call that an update then why are you even here?
4NoxiousHours3 voteslol wtf? They literally did nothing but lower the damage numbers, make the mana system super generic, and increase the price for every mage item. Why are you even here?
To educate your sins.
PogChampEleGiggl1 votesif you're "educating my sins" then you're just making them worse brah
4NoxiousHours3 votesif you're "educating my sins" then you're just making them worse brah
good you're suspended from school.
A New Horizon1 voteslol wtf? They literally did nothing but lower the damage numbers, make the mana system super generic, and increase the price for every mage item. if you can call that an update then why are you even here?
That is what an update is making changes to things that needed to be changed.[zombie-brand-facepalm]
FreshAsFebreze1 votesPreach, can riot nerf 
by not giving it a shield or something? theres no ap version and 
doesnt count since you cant move with a shield. So many AP ults are useless once this item is bought
Beldair2 votesIt's all about the way you play him and time his abilities. I've clobbered a Yas when i ganked his lane as Mao
A New Horizon1 votesYeah if 
dies early (1:00-13:00) you are basically screwed.
EcchiOtakuTM1 votesWhich is why you play maokai top....
Markus Kruber1 votesUse fewer abilities in jg get catalyst for other mana problems. I think you will enjoy Mahkuhkki more once you reach lvl 30. He is quite tanky and has a point click stun (actually a root) and his e can do lots dmg and applies cc.
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesi agree. hes horrible. and in many sites hes supposedly a top tier jungle. which is awful. hes really bad. he takes too much damage. and for what am concerned his high cooldowns and mana cost doesn't make any use of his passive that much.