Garen is a starter champion

Bultz··4 votes·1,198 views

He is a starter champion for casuals and noobs who lack mechanical skill. I've gone 30 kills in with garen because he's so damn brain dead. I just played a game against one so I will use the stats of that game. I, who played Yasuo, Did 25k damage with a full damage build. Garen, who built black cleaver and the rest just armor and hp, did 38k damage. He fucking built tank, sat under towers picking fights, and out damaged everyone. I outplayed him all early game and late game to win, but he got black cleaver and tanked the tower long enough to kill me at any chance. My kda was 4/1 early game. I ended up 8/11 because the fuck would just ult half or more of my hp away. He is a fuckign starter champion. Lack of mechanical skill should not be a fucking excuse for retarded levels of damage.

His Cds need to be much higher. His armor and mr need to be much lower. Garen is not a tank, he shouldn't abuse a tanks build then. His kit has plenty in it to survive nerfs. Ms buff, a silence, basically true damage ult, and the ability to power up his defences all without requiring skill for use. He is to brain dead to have this much damage.

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ZackTheWaffleMan7 votes

He's only good in lower elo, where people don't know how to counter him. (or choose not to)

Tahminatrix 1 votes

Counter him as in counterpick him or counterplay him?

ZackTheWaffleMan3 votes

yes

PureGold6696 votes

yeah, if you don't know how to counter him you're obviously in a low elo and DESERVE that rank o boi bronze 4

Baron Barian6 votes

He can be an excellent training champion, but for every reason you seem to ignore. He's simplistic in nature with mostly point and click attacks, and a rather simple damage mitigation, so in order to be good as Garen, you have to be good at the fundamentals of the game itself. Generally, regardless of who's playing Garen, it's easy to tell who would win a trade if the Garen and the other champion gets into a fight

You didn't have any respect for his potential damage output, got tilted, and straight-up outplayed. Juggernauts tend to be squishies like Yas, and yet you seemed to neglect that knowledge. You don't win every 1v1 match-ups just because you build full damage, even if you're a Yasuo (who you seem to get carried by a lot judging by your match history).

Jamaree3 votes

Congrats, you can pubstomp bronze players, do you want a cookie?

Zone of Endless2 votes

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Congrats, you can pubstomp bronze players, do you want a cookie?

Yes.

Jamaree3 votes

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Yes.

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Here.

Jamaree3 votes

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You're the best.

Can I have some milk to go with it too?

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Sure, also have another cookie.

redniwediS3 votes

He's not a Tank, you're right. That said, your idea to make him feel less like one also makes him less of what he actually is, which is a Juggernaut.

He is a starter champion because he is easy to pick up, but if you think that means he should be balanced around noobs and casuals you've got another thing coming. 38k damage is pathetic for an AoE damage dealer, and a 8/22 score really shows how good you are with such a simple champion.

Feed Master 40001 votes

im guessing you went yasou top where I abuse yas with every tank. Just a trash Player upset he didnt play the meta

Takazaki1 votes

yasuo top only works if you abuse his Early game on tanks.

Garen is litterally a stat check, and guess who has the lowest base stats of ANY slayer ( iirc) Yasuo

if you lose as yasuo top its about 3x times as bad as losing as mid imo because the thing your fighting against because unkillable whilst in mid sometimes you're given the tool and situations to outplay and fight back plus the saftey of the shortest lane.

also, the reason he gets all the damage is because his weakness is the fact he has 0 outplay potential. you have to mess up for garen to capitalize but its not hard to avoid it.

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