The argument ADCs are strongest because they're in every game needs to stop

Elohaven·Apr 10, 2018·5 votes·1,514 views

ADC is a role filled typically by marksmen because they usually require defense due to their innate squishiness and weakness to CC. The reason mid and top is filled with so many different classes is because these champions of such classes can often hold their own and can give more influence to the game in other ways. A marksmen/ADC top-lane creates a squishy composition which is easy to abuse while a marksmen in the mid-lane often lacks the range, mobility, escape, waveclear, or roaming potential of other champions.

In lane, even when an ADC was meta, such as Kai'Sa is now, the support still dictates the flow of the lane. If the enemy has a Blitzcrank and you have a Janna, you can bet that even Kai'Sa will need to play passive usually.

ADCs aren't broken, supports are just as strong - if not stronger.

22 Comments

NocturnalSheildApr 10, 20187 votes

Come back to me when a support can 3 shot a tank.

Then we will talk about supports being too strong.

MizayaApr 10, 20186 votes

No ADC or Support can 3 shot a tank.

And supports' strength isn't measured by their damage output... or rather it shouldn't be since that's not their job.

ElohavenApr 11, 20181 votes

I don't know why you were downvoted when supports are literally not measured by damage output unless they're a mage support - even then it's just to poke and add some pressure on the lane or snowball.

NocturnalSheildApr 11, 20181 votes

No a supports strength is measured by an adcs. Which means nerfing the adcs also nerfs the support.

No need to target the supports like the OP wants.

I for one dont want to go back to ward bots.

ElohavenApr 11, 20181 votes

No. A support's strength is measured by the opportunities and plays they bring to the team. They're not dictated just by the ADC's success but whether they can shift the tone of the fight through CC, engage, or peel.

It's not only the ADC supports have to work for - ADCs are simply the most targeted so that's where the peel goes to.

NocturnalSheildApr 11, 20181 votes

No a supports strength is measured by an adcs. Which means nerfing the adcs also nerfs the support.

No need to target the supports like the OP wants.

I for one dont want to go back to ward bots.

MizayaApr 11, 20181 votes

I believe you're referring to the interdependence between the two roles. Except that goes two ways.

Oh, and let's talk about one of my favorite supports, Thresh. You see, Thresh's kit has the ability to catch out enemy champs and/or make good engages. This has nothing to do with how strong his ADC is. This has nothing to do with how many shields and peeling tools Riot throws onto the support role, because, if you remember a long time ago, well, Madlife was a thing. Xpecial turning around an entire playoff series against CLG with one flash hook was a thing. The list goes on.

NocturnalSheildApr 11, 20181 votes

Except when adcs winrate goes up supports do as well.

As much as you people think "oh supports are for everyone" lets be honest. If the support spends 80% of the game with the adc then its the adcs support.

Its the adcs that need tuning not supports. Thats all i was saying.

ElohavenApr 11, 20181 votes

Because ADCs are responsible for a 10K HP shield that grants 80 AD.

Sure.

rtbf221651412Apr 10, 20181 votes

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Come back to me when a support can 3 shot a tank.

Then we will talk about supports being too strong.

Shhh ALL supports are op. Kappa

AirKingNeoApr 10, 20181 votes

I didn't know supports were a damage class

I didn't know anyone could 3 shot a tank (because no one can)

I didn't know support's job was to protect

I didn't know supports can make a full damage champion not die to an assassin's/diver's full combo (oh wait they can)

The Minion huntApr 11, 20181 votes

All I here is 1 champ can't solo 2/ cant solo the one being protected. anyone else? you should win cuz u want to, working alone by the sounds of it, while they work as a team. so you should be able to dive into 2 people and kill one.

AirKingNeoApr 11, 20181 votes

it's a 5v5

SalronApr 11, 20181 votes

The average gameplay poster summarized in 1 post

ElohavenApr 11, 20181 votes

Come back to me with evidence of an ADC 3-shotting a tank.

Else, you're just pulling statements with no basis.

VvVVvVApr 11, 20181 votes

I 1v2 a Sion & Xin earlier today with a Zyra. Dont know if that means she is too strong but it happened.

Little PadawanApr 10, 20182 votes

ADCs aren't broken, supports are just as strong - if not stronger.

You heard him Janna ?

haaaaaaalpApr 10, 20181 votes

You misunderstand the quote.

The problem is that the marksmen archetype is overpowered because they are picked in every match.

The adc role is different from the marksmen archetype. The fact that so many people get the two concepts confused shows just how overpowered marksmen have been.

ElohavenApr 11, 20181 votes

Ranged champions sure are OP man.

I can never win agaisnt a Teemo, Azir, or Quinn.

AirKingNeoApr 10, 20181 votes

"Reason against emotion Gotta deal with extreme frustration"

KirotheImmortalApr 11, 20181 votes

idk why you are gettinf downvoted. Riot's the one who forced marksmen to be Bot. Second off currently marksmen dont even contribute as much as they used to. Adc's have the most balanced winrates because they hardly contribute to them.

KirotheImmortalApr 11, 20181 votes

Also can we note that op.gg has a redirection virus..