So I just faced Camille for the first time since her nerfs...

Mira Arya Enthe··7 votes·1,415 views

...and she honestly wasn't so bad. Faced her 3 times before the nerfs and understood why everyone found her obnoxious. But like most champions who are new, after tuning they fall into a better spot. She may or may not need further nerfs. But to be completely honest I think she is fine to face now.

I have now faced her twice since the nerf, once on my main account and once on my Teemo smurf. Lost on Teemo won on this account. But neither felt incredibly unfair or impossible to win.

Some tips on beating Camille: Camille's dash is more linear than people give it credit for. It is slow and has a long animation. You will know what wall she is dashing to the moment she begins the dash. From there it is only a straight line from that angle to you, so she only has one move to make if she wants her stun. Plan around this.

Camille's dash can be canceled by any fast acting stun or displacement, making her lose the stun at the end. For example, Yasuo's third Q, Riven's W and third Q, Darius Apprehend, Jax stun, Pantheon's stun, Nautilus Q and many other crowd controls can be launched at the wall the moment is going to bounce off towards you. Cancelling her stun makes that a near automatic win trade for you. This also applies for when she uses it for escape.

If you have a shield or active defensive steroid save it for when she uses her second Q as it does true damage. For example Poppy's shield, Nautilus Shield, Riven's Shield and so forth.

Camille's cone ability can be dodged the same way as Darius' Q, get out of it, or get close to her to reduce it's effectiveness.

When she ults you, don't panic. If your numbers are better just dodge her outer sweep and beat her to death. If your numbers are worse the only place you should let her ult you is under your tower. In which case use any CC to wait out the turret killing her. Obvious "if you have displacement knock her out of it". Panicking and just rapidly trying to escape without thinking kills most people in this ult.

Completing any two of these will generally win you the matchup.

22 Comments

Tychusfindlay9193 votes

Thats a negatory mam, garen's w doesnt reduce true damage. The shield part makes sense, but not saving garen w part.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

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DrCyanide1 votes

Damage reduction is ignored by True Damage.

Salron2 votes

True damage cannoy be reduced in any shape or form, thats part of what makes it TRUE

Do some research before talking

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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ACTIVE: Garen reduces incoming damage by 30% for a few seconds.

The active is damage reduction, the passive is resistances. The active does reduce all damage.

No it doesnt mam, my noxian guillotine does 1k true damage to garen's tiny dick of justice whether he likes it or not mam, I played garen up to mastery 6, i understand his kit and riot's coding in general with this stuff.

Mira Arya Enthe2 votes

Derp, reread wiki, random weird exception for his W. Maybe they shield fix that, might be the buff he needs. All other "Damage reduction" works against all damage.

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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Derp, reread wiki, random weird exception for his W. Maybe they shield fix that, might be the buff he needs. All other "Damage reduction" works against all damage.

Thats a negatory mam. No damage reduction reduces true damage, ever... Its true damage.

Darius is too manly to let something as pitiful as damage reduction get in his way.

Rozair2 votes

Garen ult does 1500 true damage to villans. You wanna keep complaining?

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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Garen ult does 1500 true damage to villans. You wanna keep complaining?

Thats a negatory sir, it deals variable damage depending on total HP pool of the enemy villain. Garen still sucks chode as a champion.

Rozair1 votes

Not really? I've beaten darius multiple times with garen.

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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Not really? I've beaten darius multiple times with garen.

Congratulations, garen is still a shit champion.

BIackfox1 votes

Ofc you lost you were playing teemo

Mira Arya Enthe2 votes

I mean, it is a Teemo only smurf. I figured I would after I saw Camille. But it is a level 15 account and was blind pick.

Point was, even as Teemo I felt like I stood a chance.

Poske2 votes

level 15 account (You smurfing) vs potentional non smurf

Eh....

Mira Arya Enthe2 votes

Potential non-smurf who had the Camille skin and ward skins... >.>

Besides. That was the one I lost <.< as expected, she walks all over Teemo.

King J3ff1 votes

teemo should win that match up. his q blocks the second q active.

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

So... and I lost it? Despite losing it I felt it was fair, that is the point. Not my inability to win the matchup.

King J3ff1 votes

lol u said "as expected" as if u were expecting to lose. so it was ur inability to even think out what u needed to do to win.

pretty hypocritical

SH Azykan1 votes

eh you can blind her 2nd q as teemo, and place shrooms along the walls in key spot she would jump to/from. Not the hardest of matchups but not the easiest either. Also want to point out Garens w will not lower her Q2 damage :P

other than that, good advice

Mira Arya Enthe1 votes

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SH Azykan1 votes

true damage ignores all damage reduction effects as well, even things like maokai ult

Tormentula1 votes

A good camille doesn't get punished as easily.

The one point you failed to explain how to deal with is lane pressure and trading. While yes, all those tips are solutions to various things she does, they're not counters for the many times she'll do them and most likely succeed in doing them atleast half the time.

Ok, you interuptted her dash, stalled her ult, didn't get hit by her outer W during that trade, brought her to 50%, and she only chunked 75% off you. Now what do you do about her healing back to full while you're still 75%?

A camille being 100% vs. another champ being 100% health rarely happens cause she's better off bullying, backing away, healing, and then taking advantage of that numbers trade when they're lower, and forcing them into it with ultimate.

Also seriously... level 15 smurf and lost to somebody who was probably bronze or silver? As teemo? Teemo isn't even a weak champion in general, plus he blinds her Q..

I do think only a nerf to her base W healing would be enough, but she is by no means balanced as is.

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