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AP Qiyana .. Even simpler

Elite4Runner··2 votes·1,212 views

I've already made two posts about this, which turned out to be wrong, .. so I'm just going to cut it down to the bare bones reason I still think AP Qiyana could work just fine.

W - TERRASHAPE - Active: Qiyana dashes X-units in the direction of a target location. If targets terrain, river or brush, Qiyana also gathers an Element in the process. If the gathered Element is different from the previously held, Royal Privilege's cooldown on all targets is Cooldown reduction icon reset.

While Qiyana holds an Element, she gains 20% bonus attack speed, and her basic attacks and basic abilities deal bonus magic damage. While near the corresponding Element's source and out of combat, Qiyana additionally gains bonus movement speed.

Bonus Magic Damage: 8 / 16 / 24 / 32 / 40 (+ 20% bonus AD) (+ 30% AP)

Basically, as long as you don't use your Q until your W is off cooldown, EVERY basic attack and basic ability will deal this damage.

Add her passive on top of that and you're doubling the AP scaling for the next basic attack or basic ability.

Simple

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BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

oh. you mean how like... every assassin can be ap or ad... if you ignore an entire part of their scaling?

like shaco. like akali. like rengar. like fizz. like yi. like katarina. like leblanc. like nocturne.

i await your reply with baited font.

Elite4Runner2 votes

This was my third post on the same topic in the same night, so I didn't think I would need to include the same disclaimer AGAIN, .. but I'm definitely not trying to say that AP is at all better than AD. My point here is that it looks to me like it would be more viable than it seems at a glance. I just want people to try it. I look for things like this with every character. I wanted to see AD Sylas work when he was coming out. It's these "hidden builds" that make the game more interesting to me.

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

{quoted}

This was my third post on the same topic in the same night, so I didn't think I would need to include the same disclaimer AGAIN, .. but I'm definitely not trying to say that AP is at all better than AD. My point here is that it looks to me like it would be more viable than it seems at a glance. I just want people to try it. I look for things like this with every character. I wanted to see AD Sylas work when he was coming out. It's these "hidden builds" that make the game more interesting to me.

and i'm not trying to say you said that either.

i'm saying that all assassins have those ratios in one way or another. even kayn and zed have some form of magic damage in their kits and their scalings are entirely AD.

assassins need to be able to build lethality and flat magic penetration.

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these items help with that.

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

i mean you can...

but i see it like akali or katarina. although they deal more mixed damage, their builds are still heavily favored for one or the other.

in qiyanas cause sure you can go ap, but you miss damage on your empowered q as well as its entire utility purpose by holding it (your pick of bonus execute damage, root, or stealth), and ult bonus damage. plus other then her passive its the only thing in her kit that even uses AP.

Elite4Runner1 votes

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plus other then her passive its the only thing in her kit that even uses AP.

That isn't true at all. Read the highlighted part of the ability description in my post.

Her basic attacks, Q, and E apply bonus damage that scales with AP as long as she holds an element. As long as you play around the cooldown on her W, you should always have an element.

All of her AD ratios are BONUS AD only, and her two AP ratios of 30% can stack.

A lot of AP items also give CDR. At 40% CDR, a 7 second cooldown becomes 4.2 seconds. Allowing her to stack her passive with W damage several times within a fight.

Also, using items like Lich Bane and Nashor's tooth will add more of her %AP to her damage output.

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