your thoughts on ranks for each role?

Glîtchy··2 votes·1,693 views

So from what I'm understanding, starting next season, we'l lbe having individual divisions for each role, so for ex: you could be platinum in mid but bronze at adc, what are your guys' thoughts on this change if this is what the actual plan is?

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Warlord Rhinark2 votes

I think it's bad.

Climbing is already hard as it is.

Now I have to do it five times on five different roles?

Fuck me man.

Quiet Dude1 votes

If you get auto filled in a role you're not good with, it won't affect your main role, which is why they did this.

AND YES,

I know the counter points to that logic. But a lot of people griped about being a "lolzor yolo mid lane yasuo one trick" main only or some shit and losing LP getting autofilled support.

BAD HOMBRES ON MANY SIDES

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Quiet Dude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MAVsp6E0,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-07-19T19:49:57.050+0000)

If you get auto filled in a role you're not good with, it won't affect your main role, which is why they did this.

AND YES,

I know the counter points to that logic. But a lot of people griped about being a "lolzor yolo mid lane yasuo one trick" main only or some shit and losing LP getting autofilled support.

BAD HOMBRES ON MANY SIDES

It also kinda sucks if you had planned on reaching Diamond on ADC by the end of the day, and you end up getting autofilled as Support so you're forced back into low Silver elo.

Offensive Bias1 votes

I think Riot needs to rework the ranking system period. Its old and played out and it shouldnt take 20 30-45min games (with losses included) to move up a division. Its a good idea, hopefully they'll get an idea off of it.

Glîtchy1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lord Ghost Zero,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MAVsp6E0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-19T17:36:46.278+0000)

I think Riot needs to rework the ranking system period. Its old and played out and it shouldnt take 20 30-45min games (with losses included) to move up a division. Its a good idea, hopefully they'll get an idea off of it.

just why separate ranks? what makes it worse is that there'll likely be a system to find a middle ground for a rank total of sorts, and since adc's suck for the last 2-5 patches, it's near impossible to get a high rank in those conditions.

Offensive Bias1 votes

Im not saying seperate ranks. Im saying its a good concept, but maybe the developers would come up with a great way of executing it. The main thing is ranking up and the ranking system in general needs an overhaul and thats the whole point of this conversation, making ranks based on the role you play is just an idea of how they could redo it. lets not forget people thought having a main and primary role before starting matchmaking in solo que wouldnt be possible, but that happened...Maybe they could try it in Clash, I don't know but I think it would work best there if it were to be tried out

Glîtchy1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lord Ghost Zero,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MAVsp6E0,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-21T03:08:45.949+0000)

Im not saying seperate ranks. Im saying its a good concept, but maybe the developers would come up with a great way of executing it. The main thing is ranking up and the ranking system in general needs an overhaul and thats the whole point of this conversation, making ranks based on the role you play is just an idea of how they could redo it. lets not forget people thought having a main and primary role before starting matchmaking in solo que wouldnt be possible, but that happened...Maybe they could try it in Clash, I don't know but I think it would work best there if it were to be tried out

it seems that it could be your ranks in each role adds up to 1 total rank, personally, I'd hate this cause I can't play adc since it's now just a meme role.

kaironen1 votes

From what I saw, it's closer to platinum at mid but gold at adc, but Idk. I have only watched some youtube videos about this so i'm not entirely sure of the details.

Colton1471 votes

Can be bad for a Jack of all Trades like myself. item 3070

(Main roles I play are Jungle, Mid, and Support though)

PopcornBunni1 votes

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Can be bad for a Jack of all Trades like myself. item 3070

(Main roles I play are Jungle, Mid, and Support though)

What about a jack of no trades like me?

LeftyRaydy1 votes

This actually makes sense. I am a great mid and ok ADC but pretty bad at top and jung so I get that, but at the same time if you have someone Diamond 1 Mid or even like myself GOld 1 mid playing with lower elo players their game knowledge will not be as good and thus putting them at a huge disadvantage.

Glîtchy1 votes

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This actually makes sense. I am a great mid and ok ADC but pretty bad at top and jung so I get that, but at the same time if you have someone Diamond 1 Mid or even like myself GOld 1 mid playing with lower elo players their game knowledge will not be as good and thus putting them at a huge disadvantage.

According to what's been said, it seems that each role rank will add up to 1 grand total rank, so ex: it could be like if you're silver 1 in all roles your grand total rank could be like gold 3 or however tf they choose to work that.

LeftyRaydy1 votes

This sounds like way too complicated lol at that right they should leave it as it is.

ChargeItDownMid1 votes

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PopcornBunni1 votes

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Kind of needed to happen given the elo backbone of matchmaking. Elo was never meant to track your skill at 5 different tasks at once.

And the current elo system is really easy to abuse with duo queuing. A lower rank support can duo with a higher rank botlaner (or similarly a low top and higher jungle) and abuse the fact that their team's total MMR will match their opponent's while the first team is only allocating their MMR to carry roles and the latter has a higher rank noncarry which will have a lesser impact on the game.

Glîtchy1 votes

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And the current elo system is really easy to abuse with duo queuing. A lower rank support can duo with a higher rank botlaner (or similarly a low top and higher jungle) and abuse the fact that their team's total MMR will match their opponent's while the first team is only allocating their MMR to carry roles and the latter has a higher rank noncarry which will have a lesser impact on the game.

well forcing us to play roles we suck at isn't gonna help us

PopcornBunni1 votes

I don't fucking know man. I hardly touch ranked and only did placements in flex for the mission at the beginning of the year.

Wood VI every role

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