Should CertainlyT work on the winner of the VGU vote?

Linna Excel··1 votes·950 views

So riot has voting going on for the next VGU: https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2019/05/choose-a-champion-update-for-2020/

My only real complaint about the vote is they don't have one of the other run at you champs on the list: Udyr. I really think that Udyr, Voli, and Shyvana should probably have been done at the same time because they are all champs that just run at the other team and riot should really look at that style of gameplay as a whole.

Anyways this got me to wondering which rioter is going to work on it. He's worked on a couple of VGUs, specifically I'm thinking about Warwick and Akali. I'm giving CertainlyT a pass on the Morde mid-level rework because those things were often terrible and riot wanted him to do something weird with it. With that in mind, I think CertinalyT in both cases tired his best to make sure those champs felt like the originals. Yes Akali was and is a PITA and a balance nightmare, but that's because riot wanted her to be a "modern assassin", and riot's modern designs want champs to be like newkali. What I will say is that at least she felt like akali after the rework. CertianlyT kept her gameplay identifiable as Akali even though there were changes. That everyone hated. Bad Meddler.

So should CertainlyT work on the VGU champs? Let's look at them case by case:

Fiddlesticks - YES! Fiddlesticks is supposed to be terrifying. CertainlyT's designs are terrifying to gameplay. This is a perfect match made in peoples nightmares. If there was ever a champion to go full CertainlyT on, it's fiddlesticks. Just think of all of the sweet gameplay and reddit tears that could be farmed with this one.

Shyvana - Yes This is the champ I'm personally the most worried about riot reworking because frankly I had no idea what they were going to do with her and she's one of the few junglers I use. Are they going to keep her an AFK power farmer? Are they going to bring back the invading duelist? Were they going to move her to mid and make her an AP mage? Are they going to make her like Nidalee or Elise where she presses R to go from melee to ranged?

However I'm kind of interested with the question of "What would CertainlyT do if he had to make a dragon?" Makes one wonder doesn't it.

Nocturne - YES!!! If there's anything more freighting in league than that the prospects of a CertainlyT Fiddlesticks, it is a CertainlyT nocturne design. That said, CertainlyT is one of the best devs on delivering on the fantasy of a champ and that's exactly what riot thinks this champ needs. I hate to say it but if Nocturne wins, it probably should be CertainlyT doing the rework.

DrMundo - No Riot has admitted they think his kit doesn't need much work so anyone can work on him. There really isn't a need for CertainlyT to work on Mundo. This is more of a project for a newer dev to cut his teeth on.

Volibear - Yes Like Nocturne and Shyvana to a lesser extent, Voli needs a gameplay that delivers his fantasy. CertainlyT worked on Darius. If we get is a lightning jungler Darius, I think the game will be fine. Just think of the epic memes we could have with LIGHTNING DUNKS!!!

So by 4-1, I think riot should set aside the winner of the VGU vote until CertailyT is available unless it is Mundo that wins.

14 Comments

DalekZec6 votes

No. Hell to the no. He doesn't even belong nor deserve to do any reworks or even new champions for that matter.

His design philosophy and view on frustration is already toxic enough.

Dope Solo4 votes

Nyet.

Moody P3 votes

Yes. CT is the only good dev currently making champions.

Mavëríck4 votes

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Yes. CT is the only good dev currently making champions.

Moddy P shit taste confirmed.

Moody P3 votes

Wont name any good devs... Tickles my almonds

Mavëríck5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MAKevdAA,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-05-09T20:21:54.014+0000)

Wont name any good devs... Tickles my almonds

IceFrog

single handedly balanced DotA 1, made DotA 2 the success it is, had his hands in HoN and other games over the years. The guy is a balancing genius who knew what to nerf and what to buff from characters to items and the map itself. He was never heavy handed either which way, and worked pretty much solo.

The rumor is Riot laughed him out of their building for his pay requests. Look at the joke that Riot Games is now. The results speak for themselves.

D357R0Y3R1 votes

are you ok bro?

we're talking about good devs IN LEAGUE

Nobody except repertoir is doing fine atm

and while certainlyt is hated, his champions got quickly fixed except zoe and kalista

squad5? garbage Xypherous? garbage Endlesspillow? same lulcrushed? what a hilarious dev RIOT JAG? lmfao

Jonesybones3 votes

Unpopular opinion, CertainT's champions are toxic, and provide no counterplay.

Elipo2 votes

Leave the weed. No!!!! ffs no! All of his anominations are a balance nightmare and a nightmare to deal with.

thefatlazycat2 votes

From what we've seen of CT's work there's only one situation where he should be allowed to so much as touch a kit, that being when there's someone to hold his hand. The WW rework was the only CT endeavor that wasn't a failure, and that was when he had someone to show him how it's done, so if he's going to be working on a champion's kit in any capacity he needs a handler to keep him in line

iiGazeii2 votes

Say what you want about CertainlyT, he's a talented designer that consistently delivers fun champions with unique mechanics that sell the fantasy. The champions he designs aren't always fun to play AGAINST, but they are solid designs.

TheRakkun3 votes

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Say what you want about CertainlyT, he's a talented designer that consistently delivers fun champions with unique mechanics that sell the fantasy. The champions he designs aren't always fun to play AGAINST, but they are solid designs.

If they're not fun to play against, they're not solidly designed.

D357R0Y3R2 votes

No champion in this game is fun to play against

And it's actually non sense to think that certainlyt is a bad designer, but then think that solcrushed, Jag, and Squad5 are good

D357R0Y3R1 votes

Yes, CT is the best atm with Repertoir

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