something is terribly wrong when ap assassins can build full tank and still nuke people

Best Champion NA·Apr 6, 2016·2 votes·1,009 views

are probably the most toxic champions in league right now, stemming from the fact that they can build full tank with max CDR from items and shred carries while getting out alive. There is a delicate balance between tanks and damage dealers: if you build tank, you do less damage. If you build damage, you are more prone to die. Items like are fine on their own, but combined make an extremely toxic champ to play against. No mana worries, spam spells nonstop, shred opponents, never die.

Proposed fixes: nerf the base damage of spells, but increase scaling. We preserve the identity of these assassins with tons of damage gameplay if they actually build it, but should they go tank, the damage output should be minimal. There is absolutely no reason that can dunk on in lane, or full tank Ekko going 23/3 because there is no counterplay.

3 Comments

LoLKiruApr 6, 20161 votes

Ekko really isn't that bad all things considered (as much as I dislike the champ in general, still less annoying than Fizz or Eve though), has around 1100-ish base damage, so without much AP to add to that, he doesn't really do that much damage.

To clarify, Ekko has 1140 base damage (assuming he lands both parts of his Q, and 1 passive proc; along with E and R, at level 18), further reduced by MR.

No idea how Akali is in terms of actual viability, Fizz is annoying mostly because of his E, and I just hate Eve because she breaks one of the basic principles of the game.

TNHA BaritoneApr 6, 20161 votes

Eve is fine in my opinion b/c of her horrid clear but once she gets fed, its a rap. The others dont even need to get fed.

PisdovApr 6, 20161 votes

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are probably the most toxic champions in league right now, stemming from the fact that they can build full tank with max CDR from items and shred carries while getting out alive. There is a delicate balance between tanks and damage dealers: if you build tank, you do less damage. If you build damage, you are more prone to die. Items like are fine on their own, but combined make an extremely toxic champ to play against. No mana worries, spam spells nonstop, shred opponents, never die.

Proposed fixes: nerf the base damage of spells, but increase scaling. We preserve the identity of these assassins with tons of damage gameplay if they actually build it, but should they go tank, the damage output should be minimal. There is absolutely no reason that can dunk on in lane, or full tank Ekko going 23/3 because there is no counterplay.

didn't even know this was a thing. played a tank akali in a game earlier today, she did very little damage. didn't fill the role of either damage or tank