What do you max first on Fizz now?

stealthfox94·May 25, 2015·1 votes·2,606 views

I used to max W, but that doesn't seem to be good now. I was never that big a fan of maxing E but that seems to be what most of the pros do now.

7 Comments

SohleksMay 25, 20152 votes

AP fizz mid; I've been doing....

w . e . q . w . w . R . e . e . e . e . R . w . w . q . q . R . q . q

(seriously)

I use E more for utility early on; dodge/escape, minion aggro drop

(I very much prefer W + Q openings... so E is my way out or all in)

You still have E maxed at level 10, only 1 level later. You don't need perfect waveclear that early or any really before 6.

W is more consistent damage on a single target, less cd reliant, more mana efficient.

In some matchups tho it might be hard to get the about 3 autos needed to make W comparable damage to E rank ups. They have too much kite and ranged maybe? It hasn't been a real issue for me though considering fizz's tools.

SnowfoxMay 25, 20151 votes

Doesn't maxing E just give you a huge mana cost on it?

stealthfox94May 25, 20153 votes

Yeah but it reduces the CD.

Teridax68May 25, 20152 votes

E is Fizz 's primary source of waveclear, burst damage, mobility and utility rolled into one, which is why it's worth maxing first in spite of its mana cost increase, imo. A Fizz who maxes E first will have an easier time trading, clearing, tower diving and escaping ganks, whereas maxing Q or W first doesn't bring that much by comparison.

SirsirMay 25, 20152 votes

+50 damage, -2 s of CD, +5% slow and +10 mana per rank Compared to trident which is only +10 damage and +1% missing hp over the course of 5 seconds (non-stacking) and another 10 instantly

If you rank W you have to be able to stay engaged long enough to do 3-4 autos to outdamage your E. Not counting the execute cuz thats just wonky.

BerserkGoldfishMay 25, 20151 votes

i still max w, but I jangle him, e lowers the cd and raises mana cost and damage, so good if you go fighter fizz, but assassin fizz still benefits early from the bonus damage of leveling w first