Why does Mordekaiser have 325 ms?

JustSeba·9/15/2016, 12:27:49 PM·17 votes·3,425 views

325 ms, really, why? He has no escape mechanism, no crowd control, and is melee range. I mean Vladimir has 330 move speed, and has W(sanguine pool) to escape. Viktor has 335 ms, and W(gravity field). AND they are both ranged! As it stands, Mordekaiser is one of the easiest champions to gank in League of Legends. Again, he has melee range, no cc, no escape, and a horrible 325 ms. As someone who plays Mordekaiser mid, I have 2 suggestions: 1 = Raise his ms to 340 2 = Boost his defenses (Maybe a bit more starting health, armor?) I don't think he needs a major rehaul. I'm not happy with his W, but otherwise I like the place his in right now. He just needs to be tankier and have more ms, to mitigate the fact that he has no cc / escape, and as such is the easiest gank target.

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Witch of Babylon9/15/2016, 10:11:19 PM12 votes

He has 325 ms because his internet is very bad.

TheLightBringer9/15/2016, 12:58:14 PM6 votes

Because it could be utterly strong if he had more movement speed than he has with his W if used correctly, and it could be ridiculously hard to exploit one of his clear intentional weaknesses (vulnerable to kiting) once he finishes item 3116 item 3146 You can try out ghost on him if its something that bothers you too much. And, he already is very tanky with his passive and once he finishes item 3116, + some people builditem 3146 which grants him a good amount of damage, sustain and chase potential. Again, it is an intentional weakness on him, which nowadays is already deminished by summoner 6 summoner 4 item 3116 item 3146 item 3152 which are all viable options today.

GULAG 4 U9/15/2016, 8:41:21 PM6 votes

Cause he is meant to be a kiteable juggernaut. He also has his W to give him ms.

It would be a nice change to have BETTER FUCKING BASE STATS BECOZ FUKIN KHA';ZIX HAS BETTER BASE STATS THAN A BRUISER

Stars Shaper9/15/2016, 1:35:09 PM5 votes

I like ganks. They give me at least 1 kill.

TheLightBringer9/16/2016, 9:44:54 PM5 votes

Your points are crossing the conclusions of what Azrael's saying (and I value his opinion about morde more than yours for various reasons) You're not happy with his W, I don't think it's because it's too strong assuming you're in for buffing morde, yet Azrael is claiming that the W is one of the less balanced tools on his kit right now. Besides, you want higher base stats on him so he won't be such an easy handling target, yet the mobility you complain about is the most exploitable on team fights, and not in Laning phase (don't even try saying that against ranged champions it is, because it is literally how it should be - ranged champion should bully melee champion in lane, it's one of the whole ideas of melee and ranged stats), except the fact that much more crucial things that come into consideration into whether to gank a lane or not is first and foremost how you act in lane (I would never gank anyone who are near their turret in early levels - which are the weakest points of mordekaiser due to his low base stats and the fact that his damaging abilities get ridiculously stronger the later the game it is), and another thing that comes into my mind before gainking is kill potential, which is totally screwed by the fact that when ganked, mordekaiser has a high chance to land his E on 2 targets and recover 30% of his shield (when e is just level 1 - and people are maxing his E first under some circumstances), leave the fact that his w heals him. So yea you're asking for higher base stats to make him not as much as an appealing target to ganking but in fact he has a lot of tools to survive a gank that champions with escapes (like zed or ezreal) that anyways can be predicted and countered, don't have. And we're still not finished, getting ganked has to do a lot with your play style as I mentioned, if you're constantly pushing and you're someone like morde Ofc you'll get ganked, and you should take that into consideration and perhaps not play as aggressive or whatever in lane, knowing that your champion has no escapes, in order to prevent that ganks incoming. That is called knowing your champions strengths and weaknesses, being able to understand what they truly mean and change your play style according to them, in order to perform the best on your champion. Written by a jungle main so you better take the tips about ganking to your heart. PS, you don't need to have 124 ranked games on morde throughout 6 years to know that.

BLACK REALM GOD9/15/2016, 1:08:40 PM5 votes

his W grants movement speed. he never has to actually be in combat so out of combat bonuses are pretty great on him

MultiDarkPhoenix9/15/2016, 10:05:26 PM3 votes

like he needs buffs with the ridiculous amounts of damage he can deal and take with only 2-3 ap items and the rest tanky. have you checked the scaling on his q and the base damage on his 10 seconds perma slow point and click high range ult? 25 / 30 / 35% (+ 4% per 100 AP) of target's maximum health

vampirekid139/15/2016, 1:08:12 PM1 votes

because neither vlad, which is wearing pretty much a robe, neither viktor, which is half robot doesnt have the ridiculously heavy armor mordekaiser is wearing, making him very slow due to the weight of it all.