A lot of people want his ward hopping gone, and with Katarina losing the ability it seems like a possibility for Lee. But just how much would this screw Lee over and could it be replaced with something else?
RexSaur48 votesHe would actually take skill to play then, as he would need to hit his Q from range to get into ppl rather than ward hopping into melee range and making his whole kit point and click nukes.
Brain Errör 4047 votesHe loses his versatility and the ability to do what few champs can't though: Hopping over walls. I think ward hops are just too crucial to his kit to be removed. If you remove ward hoping, then it becomes increasingly hard for him to actually get into the back line or make the plays that he was famous for. If you don't end the game within a certain amount of time, he'll just become even more useless late.
the weeaboo44 votesGood. I'm tired of his InSec bullshit. He wants to get to backline? Make him flank through normal points like everyone else.
JoeMG4 votes...you do realize how many junglers and assassins have blinks/dashes/invisibility/wallhops that are just as if not more so capable of getting into the backline and 100-0 the squishies?
WoonStruck34 votes...you do realize that Lee Sin has more versatility than pretty much all of them?
Langhof1 votesNot totally true. Ekko has a dash/wall hop that is also a blink-to-enemy empowered auto, a slow zone/timed stun, a healing/do-over ult, a ranged slow that applies on hit effect. That's a bit of versatility if you ask me.
GayFluffyUnicorn27 votesSo one busted overloaded champ is worse than the other so both should keep their bullshit? Ekko is as bullshit as lee.
dragon1xx6 votesIf not more with an undo button.
Spice POWAH2 votesI feel like it's relevant to point out that removing the ward hop would lower his skill ceiling because of the lower mechanical execution required to play him at maximum effectiveness.
Awoof6 votes[{quoted}](name=Spice POWAH,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=M4uKG8Br,comment-id=00050002,timestamp=2017-02-03T05:21:32.428+0000)
I feel like it's relevant to point out that removing the ward hop would lower his skill ceiling because of the lower mechanical execution required to play him at maximum effectiveness.
Lower mechanical execution required, higher strategic execution required.
ZT Xperimentor30 votesHe doesn't need compensation, he'd still be overloaded.
BIH Diamond1 votesHow is he overloaded?
Sp33d Zer08 votesEvery champion with 7 abilities is overloaded.
Synnx722 votesWhy to compensate? this was a bug to begin with, but riot let in that way because it made LC$ Fla$hy Cancer
Clementine20 votesJax and Lee shouldn't be able to ward hop. It was removed from Kat because it was "unhealthy" for her, and I don't see how it's any more healthy for either of them
Theorchero9 votes[{quoted}](name=Lulu Hentai,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=M4uKG8Br,comment-id=0012,timestamp=2017-02-02T21:05:28.585+0000)
Jax and Lee shouldn't be able to ward hop. It was removed from Kat because it was "unhealthy" for her, and I don't see how it's any more healthy for either of them
Katarina used a blink and didn't dash. You couldn't interrupt with cc or displacements. Her E also had a low cooldown. Lee's W is significantly longer.
Clementine7 votesLee's W cooldown at level 1 is 9 seconds, Kat's is 10 seconds?
Requiemsfire1 votesMaybe take into consideration what Kat's passive does?
Clementine12 votesMaybe take into consideration that doesn't change the base cooldown?
Theorchero1 votes[{quoted}](name=Lulu Hentai,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=M4uKG8Br,comment-id=00120001000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-02T22:08:32.084+0000)
Maybe take into consideration that doesn't change the base cooldown?
Maybe take into consideration Kat E used to have a 6-8 sec base cooldown?
Clementine4 votes"used to"
Maybe take into consideration that it hasn't had that for months? So who cares?
Ahristocats12 votescomming from someone who played lee a lot this season, he wouldn't be weak lee can do a lot of things and ward hopping is just something he has more
though maybe some number changes would be needed on W cd on minions
Unload On Me9 votesWhat about removing Lee's ward hop ability on his W but allowing his Q to interact with wards? So he still has the ability to ward hop but at the cost of his combo. It still allows for flashy plays but now with more counter play potential.
Cocho19 votesI'd drop a ward to dodge his Q lol
Unload On Me10 votesI'd drop a ward to dodge his Q lol
Exactly and i think that would be a smart and healthy counter play
statelesskiller5 votesconsidering the length of ward recharges and the fact that it might make getting sightstone meta for a top laner in that situation i dont see whats wrong with this at all. supports will be forced "okay. either i ward or i save my carry" . . . interesting meaningful choice would be added.
Splitgrips7 votesHonestly the nerfs that riot planned for him a year or so ago where going to bury this guy for awhile. people cried out and they kept him as is then they buffed him.
now ward hoping over walls. i played back in the day that naut had a few points he could hook over walls and i liked it. started jungling naut for a bit because of it. Riot stripped him of this. they saw Riven could in a few points. they made it part of her kit. Nid had key points as well. then they built it in her.
Talon never could than they made him have a whole ability based on going over walls.
enough history .. now lets talk what that would do.
Lee puts wards all over the map. he does. if they removed the utility of the ward hoping than he would build a different item and finally get out of that utility role with no down side. i know lee "falls off" late game. that utility makes me not really believe that. i cant tell you how much i hate lee. when he does his kick and miss.. than ward hop and flashes to just have the ult anyway. Removing this ability would force him to actually be dependent on landing a 'skill' shot instead of forcing a ward hop flash ult which is such a pain to even predict.
not everyone agrees with me, but i wouldnt mind this guy to lose something. movement speed ? ward hop? something so he just stops succeeding at forced plays.
Big Lincoln6 votesbut how would he insec if he couldn't ward hop?
Ralanr31 votesExcellent question!
He probably wouldn't. Just like how Azir would lose his shuffle without his dash.
Big Lincoln17 votesbut how will I make BIG PLAYS
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Oelyk52 votesFlash, instead of being able to Insec every 15 seconds if someone flashes your first attempt
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WinTheWarOnPants6 votesIt really doesn't make sense if you thing about it. The biggest weakness of targeted dashes is that you need a target. In exchange they get reliability, typically more range, and overall more dmg. When you can simple "create" a target by placing a 
it completely undermines it's counterplay vs skillshot dashes. Also, let us not forget that EVERYONE has a skillshot dash 
JVlasterQuinn5 votesHe would be for once balanced, all of Lee i get so far do Q+Flash+R combo anyway. The ward jump R is really annoying.
Warmanreaper4 votesLee is a high skill champ out play champion... Ward hopping for him is crucial for playing fast sneaky plays or complex plays in general.. Only thing that would replace that is probably a monk type pocket flash or a really good gap closer(besides q.. If u miss q u cant do shit, hence why need another closer.)
Nameless Voice10 votesBecause other champions (such as Amumu) get a free second chance if they miss their primary skillshot?
CrimsonReaps3 votesWhat is amumu's second chance?
500000000000000010 votesI think it's sarcasm. Also, cooldown on Q, I guess.
Nameless Voice6 votesHe doesn't have one - that's the point.
CrimsonReaps2 votesah mb wasn't sure if it was sarcasm or not
Snowman Arc2 votesYou can no longer tell sarcasm with the amount of stupidity on the forums. They could have meant Flash lol.
ModKnightsKemplar15 votesThat's why people hate Lee.
With other champs, if you miss your skillshot, you can't do shit. You don't have 6 ways to get onto someone. We're only asking that he operate like other champs, in that he needs to hit his skillshots to do things.
Only 
and 
still have this nonsensical interaction with wards.
I'm not saying he's OP as is, but I DO think it's bad for the game. He can get compensated any way they want, including some kind of blink. I really don't care. But I HATE that only 2 champs in the game have special dashes with wards. It's just silly to balance for. Take it out.
Karhtel31 votesIf braum cant ward hop noone should be able to
Euthenaasia2 votesIf braum cant ward hop noone should be able to
QFT
l Dárius l4 voteshe would be fucking trash
LankPants23 votesSounds good, let's do it.
TyrekGoldenspear7 votesI disagree but I admit, that make me laugh.
Inuyasha999994 votesName another champ with three gap different skills that are gap closers. The only person I can think of coming close is kled but he has to hit his dash first which would give him 4 total which was another overloaded kit till nerf bat, any champ you name is overloaded.