A hotfix nerf IS Indeed warranted.
If Lee Sin would be sitting at a 55% win rate so soon after a small rework the entirety of the boards would be calling for nerfs.
Edit: Oh, what lovely people this thread attracted. Just proving my point I guess.
I NEED HEALlNG43 votes[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LovAXdbq,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-07-14T00:01:10.795+0000)
A hotfix nerf IS Indeed warranted.
If Lee Sin would be sitting at a 55% win rate so soon after a small rework the entirety of the boards would be calling for nerfs.
MEANWHILE PANTHEON HAS BEEN ~55% FOR ABOUT 5 MONTHS.
Linna Excel3 votesI'd agree that patheon needs something done to him in that he's got very little counterplay in lane. I've heard some match-ups are just letting him free-farm during laning phase.
Fisher No Chains9 votesYou mean 90% of both mid and toplane matchups?
Automated Riven5 votesIf you don't just let him free farm he kills you. That's what needs to be addressed.
JRobin3139 votesYeah... Singed has had a 55% win rate for like... one day? and players aren't banning him or picking him significantly? Sure... totally see the justified comparison to Lee Sin.
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
Penns3 votesI dont understand that "strong for one day" argument tho... sure it was a fast reaction, but if a champ gets overbuffed he should be hotfixed.
Big Lincoln37 voteshttp://lolalytics.com/champion/Singed/
it's already declining according to this chart, granted not everyone lives in the future. if he jumps back that high or stays there, then he'll be a problem
like i said earlier, give it time and people will figure out how to play vs him. guaranteed a lot of people don't even know his W grounds now
Ahristocats11 votesteach me dude, how do you play against singed how do you play against someone who's ult lasts for an eternity while literally giving him free stats without doing anything like yi ult, and who's main spell is up every fcking second
IcyPepper29 votesWhere were your complaints before?
Ahristocats7 votesirrelevant question, either you talk about singed or you don't get answers
next
Apocalypsic30 votesSinged is an awful champ design and should honestly be looked at for total rework, he cannot be buffed and be strong without being horribly oppressive.
He lacks counterplay when he's powerful, he's a Volibear.
20 minutes7 voteshis winrate drops to 51% today in LoLAnalytics
Malicious Metal7 votesHead over to R/Singedmains and you'll understand why.
Junkο4 votesYou really thing that 1% group of Singed mains is enough to bring it down? How come his KDA isn't terrible then?
INoble KnightI18 votesrange and sustain beat him dude.
20 minutes13 votesplus slow and stun. singed blown up within 3 seconds.
INoble KnightI17 votesDont forget 
Lyndris7 votesthat... would be amazing against him, how do i miss this shit?
Big Lincoln6 votesit's getting buffed next patch, too
up to 20% damage reduction
VoraciousX2 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LovAXdbq,comment-id=0003000000000000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-14T03:14:33.947+0000)
it's getting buffed next patch, too
up to 20% damage reduction
Adaptive Helm is getting double it's damage reduction buff? The hell? That crap is horrible to play as when someone rushes it as Kat because her entire skillset is her passive ><.
Big Lincoln4 votesup to 20% from 15%, not double but still a decent buff
VoraciousX2 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LovAXdbq,comment-id=000300000000000000000001000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-07-14T03:30:59.190+0000)
up to 20% from 15%, not double but still a decent buff
I thought it was 10% originally. I guess I never paid attention to the tooltip after reading it once and misread it that first time. Still pretty BS imo. The item already felt like hitting your head against a brick wall when fighting against it as someone like Kat, and I feel like Kat wasn't even meant for it's intended purpose, just an unfortunate side effect, though I could be wrong. I always figured it was meant for champs like Singed, Teemo, Cass. Kat's gameplay is much different than those, her passive is just in that weird spot to where the item feels like it shuts her down.
Either way, as I said in Big Lincoln's post earlier. I don't think Singed was that oppressive. No one was building Adaptive Helm vs me in the game I played and I snowballed by building pure AP(a build I think was intended for Singed after the changes). Late game I still had trouble getting around people. I was semi tanky because of the AP items I built but I wasn't dealing very much damage as they got MR. One nice interaction I noticed though was that if Kayn goes inside you with his ult he can die from your passive(lol).
Big Lincoln2 votesi think singed is good enough with just rylai and liandry
my build usually comes down to 
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and then optional final item, i like luden or zz'rot
INoble KnightI4 votesA lot of champs also are hell for Singed. 
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to name a few.
20 minutes3 votesnot irelia for sure, but kennen, quin, pantheon, and especially_** Yorick and Rumble.**_
INoble KnightI2 votesKennen is a nightmare to deal with and Pantheon can go die in a fire. The rest are also nightmares to deal with.
Big Lincoln14 votesslow him, stun him, knock him back. same shit that applies to other melee movespeed bruisers
in lane he gets wrecked by 
champs who can stop him from doing what he does which is run around and farm and be a pest or 
who doesn't care at all if he proxies because she can just farm too and outscale him massively. champs like teemo will keep him from ever touching the wave
in teamfights anyone who can impede him is a problem, which means any support, most mages especially ones like anivia are capable of stopping him from getting on your team and spreading poison. he beats most tanks in lane but they can itemize against him and CC him in teamfights and with coordination he'll go down quickly.
and his hotfix nerf is live. more minor than i thought, maybe riot knows that people will adjust to singed naturally and just wants to tweak him
Spice POWAH4 votesI find countering a poison-themed DoT champ with another poison-themed DoT champ to be kinda funny
Big Lincoln6 votesyou've never played rock poison poison?
it's a classic
Lyndris3 votesI thought it was poison venom toxin?
Ahristocats5 votesyou just listed 4 ranged champions XDDDDDDDDDDDD this just shows how cancer his kit is, i don't need to argue further
dude canno't be beaten unless he doesn't reach you, and once he does he's just a volibear like it was said above
singed didn't deserve to be buffed
Big Lincoln2 votesloses to j4 and mord too. and fiora, maybe not as much or at all after nerfs, no clue
FlameanatorX3 votesNasus, Darius, probably Galio beat him as well. And then there are quite a few champions who don't necessarily counter him, but can lane just fine.
cocacolalips6 votesyou don't use lolalytics much do you, the on going day is always iffy on the 7 days chart, well because the day has barely begun and there isn't much data yet. you have to wait till night for the next day to start or close to it to have a good sample for this day.
we have 7-11 and before: 47-48% 7-12: 54% 7-13: 55% 7-14: the day just began in europe/australia, have to wait but there is no reason it won't be around 55% too, had they not hotfixed the game a couple hours ago.
Big Lincoln3 votesi don't live in the future, they just relay info to me in the past
cocacolalips4 votesif you flip a coin once, you will get 100%-0% head-tail. does that mean the odds are always 100-0%? no, that means you need to flip the coin a lot more times to get a solid sample size
it's the same here, you have to wait a full day to get enough games to get a reliable estimation.
Marshbouy24 votesShhhh... Let him "be in his spotlight" even though he is one of the least interactive champions in the entire game.
warpenguin55512 votes^ You don't even lane against the guy, he just runs around doing his own thing
Junkο4 votesWhich gives you free farm and let's you pass the laning phase on champions with laning problems with 0 struggle.
What's the problem here? Would you rather be killed over and over again by shit like Darius and Pantheon?
warpenguin5556 votesThe problem here is that I like my lane opponents to actually show up with the intention of playing league of legends and not some weird cross between harvest moon and tag
Atleast Pantheon and Darius show up with the intention of playing the game against you, and when champions like those 2 are meta why would you even consider playing a bad laner?
Cocho16 votesOn op.gg, he's at 54% and there are alot of champs with a similar winrate/pickrates to singed.
Why call out singed specifically without some of these champs? It just seems like a double standard. I think waiting and seeing what happens would be the better course to take.
It also doesn't help that one of his biggest counters just got a pretty good nerf.
CrazFight 8 voteshttps://gyazo.com/f12a6c2731ef35dc19b8e3d7338e091e.png On op.gg he almost has a 56% win rate? ? awkward....
oSEXYPLATYPUSo6 votesCocho7 votesI mean the point still stands, I'm not saying he isn't too strong or op. If singed isn't okay, the others shouldn't be either. More champs should get hotfixed, not just singed.
DJMason884 votesBecause people have already made thousands of threads on those champions...
Disabled Alpaca15 votesSinged was shit for 2 years, and everyone who plays singed is mostly a hardcore singed OTP and with a shit champion they cant really climb elo. Singed just got a little viable again and the obvious happens, singed mains that once hit higher elos, but where low because of how bad singed was, are now gaining back their true rank.
YambrinZ8 votesProbably just all the new players never seen Singed in their lives, keep chasing him and wonder why they are dying :p
Leaf on Bush2 votesI couldn't catch him as rammus. xd
Giggling Granny1 votesBetter nerf lee sin again dude...
oh wait they did
Oh wait 45% win ratio..
Riot logic
TálØnly7 votesOh wait still picked
