so i've been playing with silvers after a loss streak and...

Ben Sharpio··48 votes·2,272 views

i have to say that i feel so fucking bad for anyone who wants to play supportive/team-based champions in this elo. There's actually nothing you can do to win when you have dedicated trolls on your team.

Never paid much attention to it because i'd been playing with high golds/low plats for a long time now. So yeah, sorry for anyone who actually wants to play non-carry shit but gets shut down by people who force you to 4 v 5

31 Comments

34271009DEL125 votes

You got down-voted but it is really true that everyone wants to play hero in lower elo.

Upvoted for your truthfulness, it really does suck playing utility or anything that isn't carry-based.

Supreme Senpai694 votes

You have to play a carry and act like a carry because if you don't carry, you lose

This feeds into the mentality of WHY you have to carry; because everybody else is playing like a carry and feeding.

It's a vicious cycle man

xevi2 votes

or you can play something with great pick potential. Silvers can do basic math and understand they have the advantage in a 5v4. Morgana, Blitzcrank, Thresh, Leona are supports that actually work in low elo.

I usually play Janna support when I get autofilled. But the one time I played it in silver it was soo bad. Luckily, didnt have to play it again.

AMYS GRAVE2 votes

Silvers can do basic math and understand they have the advantage in a 5v4.

No they don't. I frequently find myself playing a janna/soraka type standing there while we are 5v3 and our tanks don't even try to engage while their jungler is soloing dragon and their top is taking top turret.

xevi1 votes

hence why you should play something proactive like Morgana or Leona to engage rather than a reactive support like Janna?

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

So your suggestion is that you should play the aggressive playmaker, and hence the point of this thread.

xevi1 votes

Except the difference is that these champions actually provide utility and peel while still being able to make plays unlike the actual carry "supports" like Zyra, Lux, Malzahar

Supreme Senpai691 votes

Aw I'unno who downvoted you you're not wrong. Blitz is terrifying in low elo.

Elohaven11 votes

Silver is worse than Bronze. Lol

Spaceman5pff1 votes

True as fuck

Snowplosion3 votes

I have a way easier time climbing out of bronze than getting out of silver. People in bronze know they suck, so they are willing to listen and change their gameplans. But in silver everybody has to be Faker, everybody has to carry, and only your shotcalls are right. It's so annoying.

Spaceman5pff11 votes

Here I am, an 0/1/24 Janna with item 2302 item 3107 item 3190 item 3158 alone in the river and not a hope in hell of getting baron.

record scratch I bet you are wondering how I got here...

This happened to me the other day..

I was playing Janna, and doing quite well! We were just transitioning from what I would call a low-silver midgame into the grouping as 5 bit of the game. We had a good lead rolling and just need to take baron and group, really. I head up toward baron alongside my toplaner, and start hitting the scrying plants / warding up etc..

Next thing I know, Vayne and Zed are diving double nexus turrets (we hadn't even taken an inhib tower yet) and my jungler is botside doing red...

We lost.

Kallian2 votes

+1 for the record scratch

Craft Zeppelin5 votes

I still believe that the self-proclaimed people from err..."high elo" are always trolling people in bronze and silver by saying "the fastest way to get into gold is to play lee or yi" because they absolutely know 100% that they dont have the knowledge to play them.

RocketRelm3 votes

That does sound like troll. TBH I'd say the most effective way to get out of bronze/silver, presuming you've got the proper skillets, is to play Safe Champions that very easily Punish Mistakes. Like Morgana, Annie, etc. You don't need Tey dimmge, or the 1v5 hero mode. You just need to be able to see somebody positioning poorly, and delete them.

TL;DR: the real secret is in Catch Potential, not "1v5 potential".

JVP153 votes

I disagree. I have been playing in high silver/low gold, and it really isn't all that bad. I play Janna, which is kind of a "wipe the ADC's ass" champion, but overall, I seem to be doing pretty well. At least on Flex queue. Fuck solo/duo queue.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

I tend towards Janna when I end up supporting as well.

However, I don't tend to wipe the ADC's ass. I help them through lane, but then if they leave the group... well good luck to you, sir. Them ADC's aren't exactly a rarity, I'm more than happy to look for a new one.

DB Gaming3 votes

This game feels terrible anymore.... the wins are stomps and the losses can't be prevented. Last game I played zed mid, against yasuo... and I manage to get a small cs lead, and I trade kills with him when he dives the turret. So when I get back to lane yasuo is still just mindlessly shoving waves into the turret, so I tell my bloodrazer yorick jungle to come mid because he's been pushing all game. He tells me he will not gank mid at all because I'm a cocky little f%$&er... And even though I had not said a single word to him... later he told me I tilted him and I should watch how I talk to teammates.

No doubt some spoiled little brat teenager who just likes drama, by mid game he's telling me he's sorry constantly and giving me red buff, etc... but it's too late. He's a 6-16 bloodrazer yorick jungle with 0 tank items... who deliberately avoided helping his one winning lane because apparently asking for a gank is being a cocky little f&^%er.

I'm afraid if I keep getting teams like this I will get banned, because I can't just keep my mouth shut when people this stupid are working so hard to make the game unwinnable for myself and anyone else who is actually trying to win. If I watch you take a really bad fight as support maokai vs. the enemy adc and jungler who were both at full health, I should be able to call you an idiot and kick you off the team. Like if you're going to be donating gold to the enemy team I should be able to kick you out of the game, or at the very least give you some very deserving insults for deliberately hurting your own team.

Ranked is just a stress sandwich for me anymore, and I don't like it at all. Riot needs to fix this game, the matchmaking is terrible. I want like minded non troll mature players interested in climbing the ladder. At least stop putting dumb-ass people on my team and expecting me to play nice. I don't like the idea of getting banned but I'm not going to just sit back and watch these immature little bastards ruin my ranked games and not say anything about it. Solo Queue feels too much like the lottery, and I have horrible luck with teams.

Now I'm gonna go split up a bundle of wood to work off this aggression, and then try and play another game. If I get trolls in that game... I'm just gonna snap. I have been wronged too many times by Riot's matchmaking, enough is enough... I have hit my damned limit with the BS.

Cretinous2 votes

its torture. I wish they were more proactive in banning these trolls. i get one or two in every single game and sometimes it all feels orchestrated.

DemainaNyx2 votes

Yep. Occasionally you get teammates that know how to play and those games are amazing, but there are also plenty of times where some one or multiple people just can't grasp the concept of warding/grouping.

I just had a game where literally there were 3 people bot lane all lane phase. Either the enemy jungle or the enemy mid was bot 90% of the game after they reached 6. They didn't get much spending all that time cause my support and I kept warding and spotting them out long ahead. Of course though, my mid laner felt that he should just keep wandering bot every time his laner left instead of just taking the damn tower not being defended. He actually lost his tower cause he spent so much time roaming bot and then dying. The entire time calling my support and I "pussies" cause we didn't want to 3v4 when we were behind. He eventually just started running in solo and saying "adc has a small d*ck" after he died. Aren't teammates fun...

Papa Andrei1 votes

I have almost always played supportish picks whenever my mains weren't open/viable. Sion, Mao, Leo, Thresh and even taking enchanters mid.

But now.... I can't carry, i used to be able to carry as full tank Sion because i just got in the enemies face and they had to deal with me or I cc them till my team kills them. And now the 1/5 Jayce just deletes me instantly and now its a 4v5.

My favorite league tank moment ever was as Sion. Went 1/12/34 one game. Rest of my team had a total of 4 deaths, because i tanked the shit out of everything. ALl their cc and ults, and then just annoyed them and broke their team apart with passive while my team cleaned. Felt sooooo good. Now can't do that.

Faustavian1 votes

Playing Skarner is such a coin toss in the lower elo. Pro -You have so much CC and can net kills from bs simple mechanics. -Most lower elo squishies buy no form of summoner 1 Con -You can get matched with braindead allies who never learned to follow-up on a near flawless engage -You rely on said allies

Troll for Trump1 votes

The "hero" attitude happens at gold, plat, diamond, challenger, and other games.

It's a person problem, not an elo problem, and it happens a lot more when people are tilted.

Kukan Seishin1 votes

Finally more people are realizing this....

A Dizzy Lulu1 votes

Play a carry or duo and you'll get out of silver guarenteed

Ben Sharpio1 votes

i'm not in silver.

KoKoboto1 votes

Yeah Silver is the worst place ever lmaoo

vOmvbrawfU1 votes

Yup. At this elo, it's not how good you are, but how good you can carry a team of hurr durrs. Because it's just a dice roll of which team gets the bigger hurr durrs.

Sagan Forever1 votes

My highest win rate is with tanks and supports, so I disagree that you have to carry in low elo

JustJayson1 votes

At lower elo there is no way you can play supportive champs(soraka, janna). Only one I would choose is zilean. But everyone thinks because there is a zilean on their team they can 1v5 forcing you to not ult them because hey, they just going die again immediately then blame you as a support.....yeah maybe not choose zilean at lower elo also...Brand zyra. Leave it at that.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

Put aphromoo on an unranked account. bronze V. and lets see how long it takes him to get to challenger

Put aphormoo with a challenger adc in bronze in duo Q. and lets see how long it takes to get to challenger

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