Can we discuss a possible combo of Deaths Dance and Phantom Dancer for ADC's?

HongChongDong·Jan 3, 2016·1 votes·1,576 views

I was thinking about a possible combo of the items Death Dance and Phantom Dancer as possible ways of making adc's more tanky.

9 Comments

weeaboomerJan 3, 20161 votes

Who wants to do the math?

BluePolarizerJan 3, 20161 votes

It makes them tanky against melees but doesn't do much against ranged.

VesarixxJan 3, 20161 votes

ADC's don't really need that at the moment, they're in a pretty good spot already. If they could use anything it would be better armor pen items.

CalabokJan 3, 20161 votes

Marksman were already redone. They don't need buffs.

colesyJan 3, 20161 votes

death's dance is garbage

Best KhaZix VoidJan 3, 20161 votes

Death's dance really isn't that good of an item for ADCs it's barely good (read: kind of shit) on the champions it was meant for, i only buy it on kha'zix because he can actually make use of the passive with isolated Qs

ZephyrDrakeJan 3, 20161 votes

when PD and DD stops preventing less than 100 damage 15 mins after you built them you can come and discuss some combos as of now? the passives are worthless

DreadlocksJan 3, 20161 votes

Draven Vayne i see using it quite well xD

TerchioJan 4, 20161 votes

I see the pseudo-tank damage-dealer goal here, but I think there's a major issue with this item combo. While decent with both damage and a niche form of defense, my issue is that the passives on the two items tend to fight differently. Death Dance is generally an all-out DPS type item with a desperate need to deliver damage consistently enough to offset the passive's bleed (only 3 seconds), while PD can DPS a little bit, but I find it works better on champions who weave in and out of battle, relying on the speed to both escape reliably and catch enemies off-guard for an instantaneous 1v1 opportunity before climbing back in the shadows quickly.

It might work on ranged champions (who tend to utilize Death Dance's DPS strategy best alongside using PD to kite melee champions), but I feel like the two items will clash on playstyle to the point that it won't be pulled off. Carries usually need to be viable in teamfight scenarios, and I see that combo distracting too much from that. At this point, I'd stick with items like item 3139 item 3156 item 3102 item 3026 which have a more solid form of defense for champions desperate for survival.