Can we make Black Cleaver Melee only?

taleofsonata·May 22, 2017·10 votes·542 views

So that Grave Lucian and MF doesn't abuse it?

12 Comments

AFilthyCaitMainMay 22, 20173 votes

Can we make crit items ranged only?

No lol but seriously we shouldnt limit itemization like that, as all adcs can build to penetrate base armor is lethality and bc.

RalanrMay 22, 20172 votes

Honestly the main gripe is that ADCs can do this and don't seem to suffer any more than they normally do.

Bruisers? If they try to build differently then they tend to suffer more because their core items provide them not only offensive power, but defensive power.

A ranged champions is safe as long as they keep their distance more or less. A melee champion will always take damage in a trade (unless the opponent doesn't attack).

AFilthyCaitMainMay 22, 20172 votes

They get no crit or attack speed and the ad is meh. It only works on a few adcs, even then its not optimal anymore for most bc the nerf. Ashe for example.

Critmaster GarenMay 22, 20172 votes

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They get no crit or attack speed and the ad is meh. It only works on a few adcs, even then its not optimal anymore for most bc the nerf. Ashe for example.

then there wont be an issue making it melee only, right?

AFilthyCaitMainMay 22, 20173 votes

Same logic applies in my first post, useless item limitations

Friendly RamMay 22, 20173 votes

Urgot NO.

KONO RUBICK DAMay 22, 20172 votes

only if we nerf it for melees too

Critmaster GarenMay 22, 20171 votes

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only if we nerf it for melees too

y tho? are any melees actually over the top with the item?

like who? fiora? she doesnt even need the armor shred. cleaver is interchangable with triforce for her.

RebonackMay 22, 20171 votes

Step 1) Melee champs now scale off Total Attack Damage rather than Bonus Attack Damage.

Step 2 ) Ranged champs now scale off Bonus attack damage, no exceptions (sorry, Ez).

Step 3) Make beefy fighter/jugg items grant Total Attack Damage to make them less attractive on ranged champions.

Big LincolnMay 22, 20173 votes

Step 3) Make beefy fighter/jugg items grant Total Attack Damage to make them less attractive on ranged champions.

ok but then nerf item 3078 so that total AD from items doesn't raise sheen damage

RalanrMay 22, 20171 votes

I support triforce nerfs.

RebonackMay 22, 20171 votes

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ok but then nerf so that total AD from items doesn't raise sheen damage

Make it a flat value that scales with your level rather than being based on your base AD? That would probably do it.