Garen Q Suggestion

EkkoFroffles··3 votes·391 views

As a Garen main, I loved the last two buffs he's gotten, particularly the CD reduction on his ult, as it's always up now, but I think he could use one more love tap to make him more viable. My idea is to add a slow to his Q. Before you say this would make it too OP, consider how challenging it is to even land a Q against competent and/or mobile champions. Garen is boned against anyone with mobility and offers little to no utility as a tank in team fights outside of acting as a meat shield, soaking up turrets and/or skill shots, and maybe, if he's lucky, silencing a high priority target. But say I silence an enemy who's after my nearly dead carry. They can still walk past me and auto. Add a slow, however, and he can finally help peel and CC like a tank should be able to. For an ability so easily avoided or stopped (just CC him in any way and it won't wear off until his Q does) I think a buff isn't the craziest idea, and I honestly think it would be enough to make him more than just an easy to play champion who can be countered and counter-played into something useless by a competent enough player unless you're better.

5 Comments

Ser Garland1 votes

If you need a bruiser with a slow try a million other bruisers.

If you need a bruiser with a silence. Garen and Cho'gath are unique to that.

Sure, Garen has less peel then Cho'gath, but he's a single target, all in champion. If you're silencing the enemy, you'd be quick to follow up with an ignite and Ult.

junglerboy161 votes

So basically you want to make it a "win more" ability. It still leaves him totally useless when kited, but now makes him super oppressive when not kited. No.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

As if that slow-removal passive & speed boost isn't enough. Additionally, removing his silence means giving this bitchRiven more freedom to attack.

Stephenizgod1 votes

I think Garen is just fine the way he is, he isn't meant to be a super strong champion. His kit is just too simple and strong for him to be allowed more mechanics.

EkkoFroffles1 votes

Every other tank you see top lane can get an enemy off your ally, be it through a taunt, stun, slow, etc. Garen can only silence them, impeding their movement not at all. Innumerable times I've tried to come to an ally's rescue with a silence only for them just to bypass me and pick up the kill anyway. This is to benefit you in those circumstances. Were you to make it so he's no longer easy to kite, you'd be changing his entire identity and removing counterplay. But with this change, those times I'm with my team and Q a Kalista, that slow could be enough to give my team an opening to catch up. Against mobile champions he currently offers literally nothing unless they're stupid enough to let him get right on top of them for an easy, point blank combo. As is, I'll Q them and the silence will wear off fast enough that anyone the least bit mobile can still escape with no difficulty whatsoever because I can even think about a combo.

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