League, Where Even Co-Ops Bring out the Salt in Everyone

EkkoFroffles··21 votes·1,329 views

Wanted to test out Ekko jungle first in co-op before making the leap to normals. For some reason, we ended up with duo top and solo bot. Our bot was a Platinum 3 who said she was doing this for "practice," not to "have to put up with some dip." She proceeded to go 26/0/5. I show up 1-2 times, as I'm going around trying out ganking every lane to test out matchups and situations, and... you know that meme with Patrick from SpongeBob where he has 1 assist and he says "and now I'm gonna starve"? That was her. "Go help the lanes that need help." It's bots. No lane ever really needs help.

Yes, I understand that if a lane is already snowballed I, as a jungler, don't really need to help, but I'm being honest when I say I only showed up when I did because 1) I legitimately thought she was in a bad spot and 2) Few other gank opportunities were presenting themselves. She was facing a 2v1, and bots will chase you down until they reach turret range in that scenario, so she was often pushed in and gankable. The others, however, tended to be taking care of their own business and/or pushed to turret. The most I could do with them half the time was practice my turret diving, which is easier with Ekko than most, and I did test that out some as well. I could've also farmed some more, but in co-op you really just need to do a clear or two to get a feel for what it's like and anything past that doesn't tell you anything more.

I was literally just trying to gather as much information as I could from this co-op, seeing what I could do in every situation, and all this person did was question me at every turn. This is a running theme with League, whether it be ranked, team builder, co-op, featured modes, etc. Everyone is always a try hard, and I'm always worried that a match is going to descend into toxicity, even if it starts out as really good natured, fun ribbing. People in this game just seem to be perpetually on the edge and about to go over it with the slightest nudge.

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TurquoiseYoshi3 votes

I know the feels. I had somebody today get upset that I didn't assist with an impossible baron (two man baron at Level 15) and told me to die. I did show him later though. I stole a baron. As Maokai building mostly tank (with some AP, but mostly HP and Armor). :D

ChromeFluxx1 votes

I feel like that platinum in a 1v2 was just trying to say that she has literally 0% chance of losing lane, so there's literally 0% need for you to not just camp the other lanes. i don't feel like she didn't want you bot, but that any progress made on the other lanes is how you create the best possible outcome in that scenario. although i can't be sure of course, that's just what i feel.

EkkoFroffles1 votes

Still, I didn't just show up for no reason. They looked to be on the brink of dying and I was around, so I popped over there. And then they get all indignant. If they were full health and I just swept in and stole both of their kills I could understand the frustration, but that wasn't the case.

Plus, if there was a 0% chance, why bother with bot games at all? That's no "practice." I'd get more out of ganking their lane than they would out of 1v2ing it, most likely.

ChromeFluxx1 votes

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Still, I didn't just show up for no reason. They looked to be on the brink of dying and I was around, so I popped over there. And then they get all indignant. If they were full health and I just swept in and stole both of their kills I could understand the frustration, but that wasn't the case.

Plus, if there was a 0% chance, why bother with bot games at all? That's no "practice." I'd get more out of ganking their lane than they would out of 1v2ing it, most likely.

the point of bot games for me is one of three cases.

1.I dont really like aram that much so when i want to go for a shorter game because i have something i have to do in 20 minutes, I do a bots match.

  1. I'm not winning any normals/ranked. I'm on a huge losing streak and i just wanna get my first win of the day.

  2. I'm tired of having to try hard to win. i can win games but it's just not easy and it takes alot of effort, so i'll do a few bots matches where i know that i'll have no problem winning lane, and utterly destroying my opponent.

EkkoFroffles1 votes

I think #1 held true for this person. They had lost something like 4-5 ranked matches in a row.

I personally do it just to try out new champs without the stress or get an easy, quick first win of the day. And since I've had a 30 day IP boost running, I got 100+ IP per co-op, making it the easiest, fastest way to get IP at any time.

Blancmark1 votes

Nyeh, "I don't need help, go away" is kind of a suck reaction, even if it is true. Let the jungler practice some. Already going 20+ kills and 0 deaths. Almost sounds like that plat wanted to feel cool or something by soloing 2 bots in botlane.

if it was me, I'd have zero problems with a jungle gank, practice or no.

Silmaril1 votes

So much truth. Back before the jungle changes, I used to relax by going into Co-op games and going hard-random jungle. It was just for fun, AI games are generally low stress since they're almost unloseable, jungling is even easier since you can usually just afk farm to win, plus it's almost always open, and I wasn't really intending to practice anything since I wasn't a particularly serious player.

Occasionally I'd get some light rage about jungling at all, and that's fair enough I guess, going into a 1v2 with a bad match-up as a fairly inexperienced player can be rough, but it never really got toxic, surprisingly, and I'd usually go out of my way to help the 1v2 whenever I got a chance if they looked to be struggling, which they often weren't. Most of the time my teams were pretty positive about it.

Every once in a while, though, some people were just ridiculous. I had some guy go off on me for playing Draven jungle (remember, bot game), who spent the entire match cussing me out for picking it and straight up telling me stuff like "It's not viable in ranked so it's not even worth playing." It's like some people don't understand that tryharding isn't the only way to have fun.

EkkoFroffles1 votes

Top is pretty simple 1v2 once you learn how the bots work. Don't leave tower range or they'll jump on you immediately. Get one to back at low health and the remaining one will barely attack you. So just stay at turret and farm when they've pushed the wave to it, and eventually you'll have a decent edge due to having no one to share experience with. I have to shake my head when people don't seem to understand this.

But, yeah, I had a guy say he was going to report me in co-op because I was going to try to solo drag level 1 with Warwick, then lane normally the rest of the match, when we already had a jungler. He wouldn't even let me solo it. He came and helped...

Aych Pii1 votes

Every co-op game I play these days I end up with a item 3141 item 3041 Ezreal mid. Makes it impossible to pace or enjoy myself.

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