Would Poppy's old passive be allowable on a Juggernaut?

darkdill··1 votes·984 views

Anybody here remember Poppy's pre-rework passive?

Valiant Fighter When Poppy takes non-turret damage higher than 10% current health, she reduces the excess amount by 50%.

Back then, when Poppy also had Diplomatic Immunity (and we all know how stupid that ult was), it was considered busted because it made Poppy obnoxiously hard to kill, while she also had the capability to do tons of unresistable damage (even if you built MR, she'd still clobber you). Add on that she had her dash to gap-close (and still has it) and it was simply too much.

But nowadays, with the greater abundance of true damage and defensive stats being so much weaker than offensive stats, I have to wonder if Poppy's old passive could be acceptable on an immobile juggernaut Champion. You'd have a juggernaut that's highly resistant to burst damage, but without Poppy's mobility or CC capabilities. Additionally, the passive wouldn't be too good against DoT effects like item 3151 and would not work against burst true damage like Darius Chogath Ahri , nor against executes like Pyke Urgot .

And, of course, if the numbers above would be too strong, the values could always be adjusted.

Would those things be enough to curb the old Poppy passive, or would it still be too oppressive/obnoxious?

12 Comments

Ralanr4 votes

Honestly I feel it’d be too obnoxious.

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

On a juggernaut, I agree. This amount of defense on a champion that is supposed to still dish out strong damage would be hella frustrating.

Maybe I could see this working on a fairly immobile tank with weak damage, tho.

darkdill1 votes

What if the values were adjusted? Would something like "If you take damage higher than 15% of your current health, reduce the excess damage by 35%" be more acceptable?

Ralanr1 votes

Even then, the very passive itself is just frustrating to deal with.

Primaquarius1 votes

If it was canon, I'd put it on Mundo

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

There's a reason Spear of Shojin didn't get added to the game, you know.

Pokemonred2001 votes

It's still coming in Preseason 9, though. Riot said they were delaying them, not cancelling them outright.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

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It's still coming in Preseason 9, though. Riot said they were delaying them, not cancelling them outright.

God damn it.

Elkington VI1 votes

I miss old Poppy. Used to be one of the most fun hard carries in the game.

darkdill1 votes

Diplomatic Immunity was a toxic ult, IMO. If you were marked by it, your teammates could do nothing to stop her from approaching you.

Elkington VI1 votes

I agree it was annoying as hell to play against, but they could have just changed her ult instead of making her an entirely different class of champion, as well as a different character.

Nanuk Pihoqahiak1 votes

Her old passive alone was stronger than some tank's entire kits, and was extremely unhealthy as a result.

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