Will he still be a tank or will he be more of a tanky-fighter like Irelia? Any leaks or teasers youd like to share with us?Will he come with a Lore update as well like Poppy,Irelia (and probably Taric).
Im just really interested because shen was one of the first Tank champions that I played and really liked.
RiotMeddler35 votesThe plan is to keep Shen as a tank, though we'll be trying to find ways to have that make at least a little more sense thematically (so potentially a bit more evasion instead of just soaking/shielding damage).
Divewing2 votesThe plan is to keep Shen as a tank, though we'll be trying to find ways to have that make at least a little more sense thematically (so potentially a bit more evasion instead of just soaking/shielding damage).
Just throwing it out there, deflection/parrying would work thematically (right?).
Zedex1 votesSeems pretty broken on Fiora, wouldn't enjoy seeing the mechanic added on a tank now.
ExecutorDill1 votesWhat makes you think a parry ability will be more broken on a tank than on someone who can deal 100% hp true dmg for landing just 4 autos? There's definitely gonna be some give and take so if they do give him a temporal immunity ability so question is what are they gonna take?
Decrit5 votesplease, try to keep him viable as a support ;_;
I started loving him in that position because i can roam like hell and stand united to my carry when needed. I know you probably won' t change the ult or the dash ( if nothing changed from a post of a while ago) but i am still worried :c
Chaotic Reks2 votesSo instead of a subpar shield, his W could possibly be something like Fiora's Riposte or Jax's Counterstrike? Also, will he stay as a health stacking tank?
RiotMeddler3 votesThat sort of direction yeah.
askild991 votesSomeone probably already asked this, but will he still be viable as a support after the update?
ll Ghostly ll1 votesSounds great, with that in mind. Shen is my main and having his identity still be there with some more nimbleness for a fight is something im hoping for. I know you guys are probably far along with him but i have had some ideas for him too. Hopefully they're somewhat inline/reasonable.
His W could stay a shield(smaller or larger) just lasting 1 second as if youre anticipating a hit. and upon successful timing ie. shield pops you get an additional shield(small or large) for a few seconds and a refund in energy.
His E could be the same initial _taunt _ but give it like a Renekton treatment(hitting a target allows you to do another dash), except, hitting an initial target or targets(+1 each maybe?) gives you more(tauntless/dmgless) dashes either each taking energy or replacing the current energy refund scale.
Or instead maybe a short stealth 1st parter and the single current dash 2nd parter.
His Q could do what it does now but maybe adds an AoE that grants its life tap effect? And if you hit the target actually marked by Q with Ki Strike it would immediately heal you instead of overtime, for that hit.
or instead divide the damage up through multi part casts so you can mark multiple different targets to help your allies and yourself heal.
And the passive and ult can stay largely the same. Full energy upon ult cast would be cool. I think this makes Shen feel the same and yet more like a ninja.
Anyway, im sure Shen will turn out Fine, great hopefully, but these were some ideas i had come up with for some time now. Take care!
Meep Man4 votesStealth Tank!?
La Bello18 votesEvasion.
Im a bit hyped. Im really hoping he is going to have cool little animations where he dodges or reflects it with his swords. By the way while updating Shen are you going to change any of his animations? is he still going to walk like he crapped his pants?
Silents4291 votesI do think it says on the list he gets a visual update as well.
RiotMeddler1 votesShen will be a gameplay update, with some visual adjustments to support that. We won't be doing a full visual update or audio update for him at this time though.
Jeddy0171 votesSo,just a model level VU like 
& 
?
Solidair31 votesWith some gameplay stuff added. So more like... the Sona rework. Perhaps a potentially updated model and some kit changes.
Maybe Tristana would be a better comparison. Minus new VO.
Jeddy0171 votesI know there's going to be some gameplay changes,I'm just talking about the VU side of the Shen update.
Decrit1 votesNope, more like 
Some animation stuff and particles if needed, in short. Doubt they will change parts of his model, since it risks to become an hack job.
Garentheon3 votesWell that's disappointing :'(
WiegrafOfValor12 votesPlease, give him a better stance, more MS and make his shadow dash like scorpion's teleport.
Whe shen uses shadow dash he leave behind a clone that fades away slowly for 0.25 seconds while shen travel invisible for the same duration, or until he hits a target.
MAKE IT REAL!
Hyrum Graff9 votesPlease, give him a better stance, more MS and make his shadow dash like scorpion's teleport.
Whe shen uses shadow dash he leave behind a clone that fades away slowly for 0.25 seconds while shen travel invisible for the same duration, or until he hits a target.
MAKE IT REAL!
I really like the idea of a clone. Like, at the end of his dash shen leaves a clone, and enemies he hits are taunted into attacking the clone.
ExecutorDill4 votesYes Keep him tank but make him more Ninja!
La Bello5 votesWill he still scale with AP or will you give him more... sensible(?) ratio's.
ExecutorDill2 votesI'm not sure if you'll answer me but... Will you guys consider 
at all when reworking 
? One of the cool things I like about the rivals is that Shen's Ult could often be used as direct counter to Zed's when zed ult's one of shen's allies I really find that cool and was wondering if it was intended or a coincidence as Shen was made before Zed.
IcyPepper2 votesIt's either very intentional or an incredibly happy coincidence.
Their entire kits are similar, but one's more defensive and one's more... assassin-y. I can dig it.
Silents4291 votesI think they weren't touching his ult and sticking with his other abilities.
WiegrafOfValor12 votesAnd don't forget... In case rework/revamp team need a reminder..
Jolly Rogered1 votesYea, I really hope they release this skin along with his rework. If they don't, then I have lost all faith, lol.
Actually xPeke1 votesHoly shit, the first Shen model in the 2nd picture looks awesome. The first art piece looks awesome too. Not really a fan of the shen with cloak model. makes him look to much like an assassin
xXGoneXx1 votesEveryone says that's a perfect balance between a ninja and a tangy armored character. He has a bit of armor showing but the armor still resembles that of a heavily defensive ninja. I approve n can u imagine the outplays with Shen's w being a counter and he's evasive. It would be awesome. Just hope they fix the way he walks n give him a better looking auto attack with that tiny VU.
ExecutorDill1 votesIt's funny how one little role switch can save you guys a lot of thought and headache. But I am not opposed to him staying a tank once his rework is fun and he still has his current strength.
Kalatash2 votesThe plan is to keep Shen as a tank, though we'll be trying to find ways to have that make at least a little more sense thematically (so potentially a bit more evasion instead of just soaking/shielding damage).
I'm sure you or another Rioter has thought of it, but just in case: Will you consider having one of Shen's abilities be him doing the log thing? You know, you think you stabbed the ninja, but SURPRISE it turns into a log and he's actually standing over there.
Neamean3 votes**Shen ** Unpopular opinion here but i don't really like the idea of making Shen more Ninja. Forcing him into being more evasive to me just feel like you are making him more one dimension.
Shen is more then a ninja or a sneaky sneaky ninja he is Shen. What is Shen you may ask. Let me tell you, Shen is they type of guy who can take a hit. His lore made him out to be a guy who can endure because his trial or test was to watch his father being torture and not even blink or get emotional about it.
Now I have faith that Riot would make Shen cool but all I'm saying is don't let the reason for his change is to make him more ninja-y and one dimensional
Also I would also like to talk about Swain because he is similar to Shen but also an Inverse of Shen. Shen is a ninja but doesn't play like one where Swain is a Tactician who doesn't play like one.
Swain
For me the Swain we currently have is fitting a lot of people want him to be more tactical like he plan a head but I don't think that is what he should be. To me the Swain we have is the other side of the Master Tactician. This side is the side that is just chilin in his oval office one some assassin sneak up on him an BOOM bird the word. This Swain although does not show the Master tactician side of Swain but it show the Bird man side which is equally part of Swain.
**Conclusion **
All I'm saying is that the champions are **multi-dimensional **and they can be look at from different angles. Also any Naruto fan out there would know that Shinobi mean to endure which would make sense with Shen thematic and it would knock out two bird with one stone. Shen or should I say Shenobi are meant to endure by making him more of this type to endure you are making him more ninja-like and Shen-like at the same time.
ExecutorDill1 votesCan he (and maybe his allies) get mov spd when moving towards marked targets? I think that's a cool mechanic for a utility initator tank like shen. It also will allow him to use shadow more wisely.
Stephenizgod1 votesI guess i am the only one who likes the current Shen? I feel like there is counter-play and strength to him, but i guess i am the minority ):
Anyways, i hope you guys can keep Shen in a similar play pattern as he is now, i know im going to sound like a noob by saying this but i really enjoy simple tanky champions like Garen, Shen, and Illaoi. I think we need just as much simplicity as complexity in this game to keep it balanced. Thats all i wanted to say.
Thund3r Ang3l8 votesMan... Everyday I'm watching the forum and the Surrender at 20 For any new informations about the shen update... I cant handle the wait. My Main is gettin rework and I Wish Riot could give us more hints 
Meep Man4 votesImagine the Poppy mains that did this for the past 3 years.
Melledoneus6 votesWe must be patient. One day, Shenpai will notice us.
Pierce The Veal4 votesInb4 sion update. "We felt shen wasn't in touch with what we wanted him to be, so we turned him into a ninja assassin."
The Yetii Rider2 votesHis Q is largely uninteractive, and definitely could be made more interesting. His W is just boring. And his passive is really strong with the way it interacts with Grasping Hands (and now that we have Grasping Hands, his passive is largely unnecessary for him to tank). So we could scrap that for something that makes him more tanky and less fighter-y.
Chaotic Reks1 votesHis passive never was there to let him tank, it was there to encourage stacking health so that you ACTUALLY do something when your dash and ult are on cooldown. It also restores energy making it VERY necessary for his kit.
Jiharu2 voteshybrid shen is now good with 
and 
together. I'd go more with 
if you play him bruiser hp stacking offtank. What makes him so good is his utility, so you play him however you want.
I just didn't like full tank shen because he falls off hard outside of passive damage. Even then, you'd have to build him as an hp tank which was countered by 
(which every adc and their mother built.) Shen did poorly as a damage soaker because his shield scaled poorly with tank builds and tank stats were subpar in general for him. That and they nerfed his e's width, so you had to hit it perfectly at the tip for some champs, since he'd just fly over them ala shyvana ult whiffs. I lost plenty of games on either of them because of that.
Now that 
scales with armor, you lose out on dmg if you stack hp runes, so you'd be better off building him like a Juggernaut than just straight tank 
. Unless you are a support and just stacking resists then would be better.
BluePolarizer1 votesshen is now a squishy AP mid.
fukimissHarambe3 votesPfft. I have been playing AP shen occasionally for about 6 months that shit is no joke.
Shuriman Curator1 votesPfft. I have been playing AP shen occasionally for about 6 months that shit is no joke.
If I may ask. What kind of Ap build do you play on Shen? I play Shen a lot and I'm always interested in new ways to play/ build him.
fukimissHarambe2 votesI was hoping someone would ask :). Now I am by no means an expert on ap shen... or anything else for that matter but personally I find that ludens echo rush works really well. The move speed means that you can more easily walk up, throw a q and then walk back without taking to much harass. After ludens I normally go for lich bane to raise my burst with my passive up, a taunt into an auto attack into a Q does a surprising amount of damage. Rylais is pretty good on him because of how easy it is to just run after he burns taunt but I don't know how I feel about liandries, I play Shen for his burst and buying a liandries feels counter intuitive even if I have the rylais. Definatly pick up a rabadons and a zhonyas at some point, if you are agianst an AD mid I would recommend going zhonyas first but it only because 100% crucial during team fights when you can get a big taunt then zhonyas the burst they throw at you afterwards. As for boots lucidity work well because his cool-downs don't really favor those of a caster so they have pretty long cooldowns but I have made pen boots work also. If you do end up playing ap shen feel free to build anything else that makes sense, you are playing ap shen afterall... why stick to conformity now.
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l MinimumWage l1 votesWhy does shen even need a revamp? He has high damage with health scaling everything and a low cooldown aoe taunt for CC. I foresee % max health damage with some true damage icing somewhere on top of that mess that will become another broken champ.
ItsStout4 votesBecause having a strong or effective kit isnt the same as having a healthy kit with thematic cohesion.
