@meddler why is poppy being nerfed despite other champs having higher winrate/banrate/pickrate?

MunchCrunchLunch·Dec 6, 2016·3 votes·681 views

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especially her hp regen. poppy has one of the lower hp regens for a top laner in league. but nerf it even more

Poppy Base health regen lowered to 1.4 from 1.6 Health regen growth lowered to .15 from .16

not fun.

if this is for lcs. meddler all of us know that op lane is the least diverse role in lcs and thats saying a lot as lcs in general is about picking the most meta safe picks. and top lane usually takes the cake with that being 3-4 meta top laners at a time. maybe you should consider making other top laners strong as many of them are weak as shit to be blunt about it

14 Comments

RalanrDec 6, 20163 votes

Probably because she's pretty powerful. Honestly I'm hoping that we don't give her more nerfs, but I'm not to confident that she's just getting that.

AstôlfoDec 6, 20161 votes

Because Riot has a history of nerfing the results instead of the cause.

MunchCrunchLunchDec 6, 20161 votes

you mean both

they just nerfed colossus.

AstôlfoDec 6, 20161 votes

And they're nerfing someone who was only over the top as a result of Colossus for no reason too.

VeraskaDec 6, 20161 votes

She was picked pretty consistently at worlds prior to courage of the colossus shes been strong for longer then pre season

Linna ExcelDec 6, 20161 votes

I'm guessing keeping her in line for pro level play. Could be wrong though.

Big LincolnDec 6, 20161 votes

because Poppy is still overtuned and her low-interaction gameplay in top lane is bad

keep nerfing tanks imo. gut maokai while they're at it

TyrekGoldenspearDec 6, 20164 votes

If she's low interaction then stop trying to pick fights and farm.

I mean really, calm your bloodlust and work on CS.

Big LincolnDec 6, 20161 votes

nice try, but I play poppy

TyrekGoldenspearDec 6, 20162 votes

Then explain your problems with "low interaction" if you play a champ with this feature please.

Big LincolnDec 6, 20161 votes

I play Poppy in the jungle because she's freelo and absolutely brain-dead to play. I will always say that she would have been a better design if she were a bruiser.

low interaction gameplay on a tank is bad because they become a ball of stats. Champions like Poppy and Maokai are absolute cancer for this exact reason; when they are behind they can stall the lane with ease. If they are ahead they will all-in you with impunity and you can do nothing about it. CoC has only made this gameplay pattern worse on both ends.

It's absurd that I can come first or second in damage charts as consistently as I do when I go full tank with item 3078 only if I get fed early. Poppy's damage is too high for how obscenely durable she actually is with her health-scaling shield and her bonus resists.

TyrekGoldenspearDec 6, 20161 votes

She's also braindead to escape from. She has no sticking power and her low range ability wise is detrimental in ganks unless you caught your target way overextended.

Also, if a tank is behind and decides to stall the lane then all in them or roam.

If a tank is ahead and tries to all in you, that doesn't sound like low interaction. It sounds more like only fighting when the odds are in their favor, which is smart.

Her damage is only high when dummies stand in her Q blast zone, stand next to walls so she can stun them, and so on.

Low interactoin is not a bad thing, it's simply a different playstyle which can be played around. If they don't want to push then roam somewhere else or teleport bot to gank.

Big LincolnDec 6, 20161 votes

She has plenty of sticking power. W's movespeed boost keeps her close on top of Q slows while she waits for cooldowns and item 3742 item 3025 / item 3078 always keep her close

not like I lose anything if poppy's OP, I'll just enjoy the easy climb

GuardmanDec 6, 20161 votes

They are also adding to her ult "Enemies hit with an uncharged Keeper's Verdict will take half the damage and be knocked straight into the air for half the duration." which is actually a pretty big buff (even if damage is cut in half) since you can now first proc Q > R > second proc Q.