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Clash - Great Game mode, not enough Tiers

Billybaroo2314·12/8/2019, 4:16:34 AM·23 votes·13,477 views

I played Clash tonight. I thought the gameplay was smooth, loved the set-up, the preview of other team, how to ban champs. Felt like a great tournament condition (maybe one day more then 1 loss and done, but totally understand this for speed of tourney). I thought, this a great mode to get people to work as a team, maybe get more teams together for ranked. Everything about the system was good for most part.

The biggest problem with Clash is you don't have enough skill rank tiers. I played in Tier 4, I am silver ranked, ok, lowest tier, makes sense. What does not make sense is that tier 4 can have a team with 5 Plat 4's on it vs Iron/Bronze/Silver/Gold teams. I know to a degree you have to be careful on tiers, but 4 tiers and you put up to Plat 4 in the lowest?? This makes no sense. The majority of players are Silver so you say, and are lower ELO. If you need to, add a 5th or 6th tier. There should be a tier on Clash that no one over Silver can be on a team. You include 3 ranks, Iron, Silver, Bronze and If you have a gold you move up one. If you don't do this, the wonderful new, fun, mode you created will die. If most of the players (silver) have to enter it with 0 chance of winning if all Silver team has to go against all Plat team, or all G1 Team, you will kill this mode.

Just asking to add more tiers to game mode, or rethink the tier system, and I think you have a winner.

22 Comments

Billybaroo231412/8/2019, 4:37:51 AM7 votes

Just looked at the results some more tonight. Tier 1 has people Diamond/Plat/Gold and Tier 4 can be Plat 4 x 5. Need to rework this system is all for tier teams and you will have a good mode.

Environmentalist12/8/2019, 4:25:56 AM6 votes

I agree! I'm surprised both plat and iron are considered tier 4.

Billybaroo231412/8/2019, 4:41:23 AM5 votes

If you want to down vote the post, have the guts to say why. I see nothing wrong with a great game mode being improved to help the game itself. Down vote a post asking to expand the people who can enjoy it, with no reasoning behind it, seems like the total problem with the league community. A bunch of keyboard warriors who think they are good (but really aren't) and want to make fun, or down vote anyone actually looking to make game better.

Kpuc12/8/2019, 2:49:20 PM3 votes

I agree! We are Bronze 1, Bronze 3, Silver 2, Silver 2 and Platinum IV - Tier IV team :)

fire26312/8/2019, 5:25:28 PM2 votes

Definitely agree, I don't get their tier system at all as 90% of players are tier 4 which doesn't make any sense since weren't the tiers supposed to distribute the ranks evenly to get fair matches? Why should plat 4 and iron 4 be the same tier, makes absolutely no sense. Granted, from what I see they do seem to try and match bronze teams with other bronze teams, but when there's a wide skill gap it messes things up, and they definitely need to rework tier system to make the games more fair.

Admiral 3edn12/8/2019, 5:01:53 AM2 votes

Funnily enough, this issue was mentioned 4 months ago and received multiple feedbacks from similar players but was disregarded (Link ).

Currently the issue is that if you're a team full of low-elo players, you will be excluded from the entire Clash experience because Tier 4 is distributed around gold/high-silver players and Clash is STRICTLY tier based. So regardless of how similar of the ranking your team is as a Bronze player, you will ALWAYS be faced with gold/high-silver players in Tier 4.

Daddy Ants12/8/2019, 7:44:11 PM2 votes

Plat 2 players shouldnt be allowed to queue with bronze for example.

Having high plat in tier 4 isnt fair.

NTrumpWeTrust12/9/2019, 10:34:03 PM2 votes

Clash is the most fun I've had in league in years. That said, we could do with more tiers. My team is in tier 2 and we had a game yesterday against a masters player but that was offset by them having a gold 4 player lol We destroyed them in 15 minutes.

WTBeGirl100EUhr12/8/2019, 1:02:18 PM2 votes

I'm pretty sure the way it is SUPPOSED to work is that Tier 1 is roughly equivalent to High Dia+, Tier 2 is low Dia and Plat, Tier 3 is gold and Tier 4 is silver and below. It is also off-set by your previous Clash performances.

It is based on your MMR in any summoner's rift ranked queue. I suppose this means that if you have widely different MMR In flex and in solo queue it might tier you lower or higher than you would expect.

That said, it's clearly not working that well and it does have to average the ranks of the players so I'm not wholly surprised that there's some weird results with huge disparities within a team.

Skia Asteri12/8/2019, 5:11:54 PM1 votes

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/rank-distribution

Just leaving a link to view rank distribution for use in the conversation.

Though I would think if they are trying to get good match ups they would use MMR from ranked queues more so than actual rank.

FSRER12/9/2019, 3:47:22 PM1 votes

Want to know why? Because Riot just wanted to push out this gamemode while it has not been updated for the new Iron and Grandmaster Elo and as I said, Riot just half assed it as they do with everything recently