Remove the Teleport From Rank 1 of Stand United

Ifneth·Jul 19, 2018·2 votes·523 views

Requiring Rank 2 of Stand United for Shen to not only shield, but also Teleport to, the target ally would make him healthier in competitive play, where Shen could no longer threaten to Ult to turn a skirmish and then recall and Teleport to lane. Many of the nerfs he has received to reduce his competitive presence could then be reverted, enabling Shenthusiasts to enjoy their champion in-game.

While this solution might not be pretty, regularly nerfing a champion isn’t, either.

6 Comments

ZephyrDrakeJul 19, 20183 votes

Yes, make Shen have one of the most useless ults in the game and also the most inconsistent... You do not get to talk about balance

IfnethJul 19, 20181 votes

Don’t be rude. The competitive nerfs leave Shen’s ultimate with so much of his power budget that he must land good ones to be useful, forcing him to rely on his teammates to make plays around it. The Ult of even a good Shen without cooperative teammates is inconsistent and even useless, and since so much of Shen is his lane-phase ult, so can Shen be in solo-queue.

A thick, global shield, on the other hand, is not. The ultimate would be as it was after Level 9, when Shen would put a second point into R, but the nerf-reverts permitted by this change would enable him to do well by himself both when he would have had the built-in Teleport and later in the game.

AnAggravatedPimpJul 19, 20182 votes

How's about no

IfnethJul 19, 20181 votes

How about yes. Shen is usually not allowed to have a decent solo-queue winrate because of the utility his ultimate provides to competitive play. Removing some of that utility would enable him to perform reasonably well in both environments.

AnAggravatedPimpJul 19, 20183 votes

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How about yes. Shen is usually not allowed to have a decent solo-queue winrate because of the utility his ultimate provides to competitive play. Removing some of that utility would enable him to perform reasonably well in both environments.

It would destroy him because he would lose the ability to effectively turn around fights on the other side of the map. Its rank 1 use would mean constantly watching other lanes then having to stand still to apply a shield, because a free global shield is actually broken so he's keeping the channel, and then watch it be useless because he can't follow up to protect his team. So again, hows about no

IfnethJul 19, 20181 votes

But if Shen weren’t nerfed, then he wouldn’t have to turn a fight across the map. He could turn one in the topside jungle, roam mid, or even win his lane. Those patterns are healthier and richer playstyle than struggling to gracefully lose almost every lane just for the chance to make a play or two.