I just can't enjoy these event game modes anymore.

Bultz··2 votes·1,114 views

I used to look forward to every time I knew a game mode was going to come and we would get to play something fun aside from constantly being on the rift. But I just can't enjoy these games anymore. I play a lot of AD squishy champions, like Yasuo. I love ad champions over the very simply put, point and click ap champions. Because let's be honest, they're not fun. They are on dimensional and have no need to have skill. I know people love playing them and that's fine too because that's what playing video games is about, playing what you love. But i think, from my experience, that ever since the rotating game modes started it has become very clear in the unbalance.

Before you hit the downvote button, please finish reading. All of these game modes have become so unfair. It has basically come down to being killed nearly instantly by Ap champions, or stunned to death by anyone with one. I have fought many games in these event modes and each time I think okay i have my opponent dead, I have outplayed them, I jumped them from the bush, used exhaust on them, ignited them, and I am ready for the kill. But what happens more than 90% of the time I play these modes? You have two options, you get 2 to 3 hit by nearly all ap champions, or you get stunned and then 2 to 3 hit.

Ap champions

Let's address the ap champions portion first. In these modes nearly all AP champions are so boosted that it's criminal. Aside from ap items being able to go from 80-120 ap, the scaling on most ap champions is something I cringe at. Take a moment and imagine a Master Yi, or a Yasuo with 120 ad items. Makes you cringe don't it. So why is it okay for ap items to have them? Look at ap assassins, they do so much damage. And most of them are ad in skill type, so they have huge outplay potential. I mean I have never seen a game where an experienced Akali player hasn't been fed. and let's not even address Katrina who has a nearly 100% ban rate in all these modes.

But putting aside the fact that ap has a ton more damage, the boost they get in these games is crazy, I was fighting a Mord in a game and he literally two hit me in the early game phase. I got 1 hit by a veigar, he stunned three of us and literally 1 hit three people in hexakill. Same thing with Annie. Considering that most ad champions are late game champions, and most event mode games last under 20 minutes, it becomes rather stupid to play one. It's just really broken with the ap champions and makes me want to not play at all.

Stunning champions

In these game modes, nearly all these champions get a huge boost in power, but get no nerfs to their stun times. I mean i build 40% tenacity in the modes and it does nothing. By the time I'm free from the stun, I have already been killed. There is no counter to it. Even with Quicksilver sash, an activate type item, having to activate it takes more time than it does for them to kill me. And on top of that, it doesn't debuff all stun, silences, knock up, knock backs, exp. Take Jax for example, he's fairly broken as is, but in these modes, he is even more so. He stuns you and that's that you're dead because by the time you are free there is no outplay chance. Most attack speed champions are broken, and in these games even more so. Jax, Xin, trynd, etc.

There isn't even tenacity in the games, i once built it up to 50% i think in urf mode and i was still stunned to death. There is no chance for a late game, squishy champion, like Yasuo in these modes. I have practiced playing Yasuo for years and have 650k exp with him. I play and out play a lot of people from having played so long with him. But in these modes the unbalance is so hard core. There isn't time for outplays, people who are new to their champions, like annie, just out kit and outbalance you.

Over all

I know the modes are meant to be unbalanced, but every mode is unbalanced for the same champions over and over. Imagine If Yasuo suddenly became unbalanced in these mode and his ap build was viable again. How quickly do you think they would nerf that? So why is it so okay for ap champions to still be so op. Katrina has nearly 100% ban rate in these games. Why? because who wants to face someone who is ap with such a mobile kit? no one.

I don't know, but After playing for years on the rift, actually being a decent player, who took the time to learn on champions very well, I just don't enjoy the game modes anymore. It would be one thing for them to be balanced for one champion in one mode, and another in a different one, but I constantly find the same champions are being picked, over and over, because they are so unbalanced and broken in them does. I just can't enjoy it. There is no outplay time or potential in these modes, it just comes down to click and point champions.

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Votable Jester4 votes

1: You diss targeted skills and talk about outplaying your opponent then say you exhaust + ignite someone as you jump from a bush.

2: AP champs have high AP items and ratios because they don't get 100% AP ratio on EVERY SINGLE AUTO. AD champs are also generally superior in damaging towers.

3: Hexakill doesn't boost any single champion's damage (except Karthus ult I suppose).

4: Now you're talking about attack speed champions being broken. Yeah sure, they aren't ad at all.

Stopped reading past this point, as you seem to just be complaining about Yasuo not being ideal for these game-modes. I mean, just think about it; why would you even expect Yas to be good in URF? Massive CDR isn't that good for him (pointless for Q, near useless for E) and he's already manaless. Of course he won't be great in a mode that massively buffs every single champion other than him.

TLDR: They may not be balanced between all champions, but they were never really intended to be. Nearly every champion has a mode they shine in, and I think you're exaggerating Yasuo's weakness in these game-modes (minus URF, but that should be obvious).

Bultz1 votes

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1: You diss targeted skills and talk about outplaying your opponent then say you exhaust + ignite someone as you jump from a bush.

2: AP champs have high AP items and ratios because they don't get 100% AP ratio on EVERY SINGLE AUTO. AD champs are also generally superior in damaging towers.

3: Hexakill doesn't boost any single champion's damage (except Karthus ult I suppose).

4: Now you're talking about attack speed champions being broken. Yeah sure, they aren't ad at all.

Stopped reading past this point, as you seem to just be complaining about Yasuo not being ideal for these game-modes. I mean, just think about it; why would you even expect Yas to be good in URF? Massive CDR isn't that good for him (pointless for Q, near useless for E) and he's already manaless. Of course he won't be great in a mode that massively buffs every single champion other than him.

TLDR: They may not be balanced between all champions, but they were never really intended to be. Nearly every champion has a mode they shine in, and I think you're exaggerating Yasuo's weakness in these game-modes (minus URF, but that should be obvious).

1: You diss targeted skills and talk about outplaying your opponent then say you exhaust + ignite someone as you jump from a bush.

I don't how you are correlating me jumping from a bush and using spells to skill shots?

2: AP champs have high AP items and ratios because they don't get 100% AP ratio on EVERY SINGLE AUTO. AD champs are also generally superior in damaging towers.

Damaging a tower and not having ratios, but being able to take half a player's health away using a single q isn't the same thing.

3: Hexakill doesn't boost any single champion's damage (except Karthus ult I suppose).

Tell that to the unfed Veigar who 1 hit three people.

4: Now you're talking about attack speed champions being broken. Yeah sure, they aren't ad at all.

Attack speed champions are broken. Yes they are ad, mostly, but are broken. Once you play someone who doesn't half ass know their champions, they become op. Trynd, Jax, Xin, I've seen them beat people in 5v1 with pure attack speed. And they were unfed.

Stopped reading past this point, as you seem to just be complaining about Yasuo not being ideal for these game-modes. I mean, just think about it; why would you even expect Yas to be good in URF? Massive CDR isn't that good for him (pointless for Q, near useless for E) and he's already manaless. Of course he won't be great in a mode that massively buffs every single champion other than him.

They only gave him cool down on his shield. His q and e and r don't change, at all. I'm here fighting Garen's, who can literally spin all game with their cd. Karthus who spams the snot out of people, Broken Malzahar, etc. But Yasuo only gets a cd on his W? That's really stupid.

As far as you having stop reading, couldn't care less.

TLDR: They may not be balanced between all champions, but they were never really intended to be. Nearly every champion has a mode they shine in, and I think you're exaggerating Yasuo's weakness in these game-modes (minus URF, but that should be obvious).

I play Yasuo and have 650k+ exp with him. I know him better than any other champion, and being squishy I know when someone hits harder than they normally do. It's a very important thing to know as a Yasuo. Because you are so squishy you have to know every champions max output of damage at their current level and stat. So when I'm being one hit at level three, by champions i know could never one hit anyone until fed, I see a problem with it.

zlumpy3 votes

Sounds to me like you just don't enjoy urf. Tons of people do so I geuss...don't play it? Some of the extra games aren't fun for everyone. I really don't enjoy Ascension (probably miss spelled that) so you know what I do? I don't play it. Simple as that. It's this way in EVERY multiplayer game. TDM, CTF, king of the hill, Summoners rift, twisted treeline, gun game, slayer, deathmatch, gaurd the objective, MVP protect, etc etc... all these game modes exist in various games because other people enjoy playing them. In LoL not everyone wants to play "hyper carries are the only viable champs" game modes.

Bultz1 votes

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Sounds to me like you just don't enjoy urf. Tons of people do so I geuss...don't play it? Some of the extra games aren't fun for everyone. I really don't enjoy Ascension (probably miss spelled that) so you know what I do? I don't play it. Simple as that. It's this way in EVERY multiplayer game. TDM, CTF, king of the hill, Summoners rift, twisted treeline, gun game, slayer, deathmatch, gaurd the objective, MVP protect, etc etc... all these game modes exist in various games because other people enjoy playing them. In LoL not everyone wants to play "hyper carries are the only viable champs" game modes.

How about no. It would be one thing for some champions to be good on one mode and others to be good on other modes, but that's not how it is at all. It's always the same broken champions being played on every game mode. Every game mode is just ap champions running around basically getting pentas. Why is Katrina banned nearly 100% of the time? because she is balanced? She is broken in every mode. The same thing for many other champions. Champions like Yasuo get shat on by them in every mode. I can't enjoy basically any mode. That's rather stupid.

zlumpy3 votes

She is banned because her cooldowns reset on kills not because she is an AP champ.

Bultz1 votes

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She is banned because her cooldowns reset on kills not because she is an AP champ.

lol No. She is banned because her attacks basically 1 hit entire teams.

Marshbouy2 votes

dont all group in a bush then? Her CDs reset and she snowballs hard, not cause shes AP

Bultz1 votes

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dont all group in a bush then? Her CDs reset and she snowballs hard, not cause shes AP

lol her being able to do enough damage is all because she is an ap champion, her cd and resets have nothing to do with her ultimate being able to kill entire teams.

zlumpy2 votes

Or yas being able to save his ult to stop her entire ult either apparently....but no youre right yas should gain 5000% crit damage and his lunge should give him a 150 move speed buff. Seriously just because the 1 champ you like can't win EVERYTHING doesn't mean everything else needs nerfs/your champ needs buffs. Try playing a few others maybe turns out there are a lot. Don't wanna do that? Expect to die a lot to things that work well vs you/people that know how to out play a yas. You can't hyper carry every game get over it.

Marshbouy1 votes

accurate.

Bultz1 votes

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Or yas being able to save his ult to stop her entire ult either apparently....but no youre right yas should gain 5000% crit damage and his lunge should give him a 150 move speed buff. Seriously just because the 1 champ you like can't win EVERYTHING doesn't mean everything else needs nerfs/your champ needs buffs. Try playing a few others maybe turns out there are a lot. Don't wanna do that? Expect to die a lot to things that work well vs you/people that know how to out play a yas. You can't hyper carry every game get over it.

"Or yas being able to save his ult to stop her entire ult either apparently" Oh no she has one counter in the game. Yasuo is only countered by 90% of champions, but Kat has one what shall we do?

"but no youre right yas should gain 5000% crit damage and his lunge should give him a 150 move speed buff." Sort of like what ap champions get?

"Seriously just because the 1 champ you like can't win EVERYTHING doesn't mean everything else needs nerfs/your champ needs buffs" He isn't winning anything? He is illegible from playing all event games. The same champions are played over and over at the events because they are broken. And the events favor AP champions.

"Try playing a few others maybe turns out there are a lot." I've played a lot actually, and comparing them to playing Yasuo in these events is a huge difference. They are so easy to play it's not funny.\

"Don't wanna do that? Expect to die a lot to things that work well vs you/people that know how to out play a yas" It's not out playing Yasuo. Most of these modes have ap champions two hitting people. If standing and clicking is "outplaying" then wooow.

"You can't hyper carry every game get over it." oh look another ignorant comment. It's not about carrying anything, I'm saying, if i have more skill have out played and strategized them the get two hit to some bull shit, thats broken and it occurring in every game mode is stupid.

Marshbouy1 votes

uh, don't let her channel her entire ult then? CC her, kill her, she is a squishy assassin. Punish her for mistakes and she shreds like tissue paper. It still has nothing to do with her being AP.

zlumpy3 votes

Shhhh he just wants to throw a tantrum. Logic won't work here. (Careful don't tell him to windwall anything he might start doing it and winning stuff)

Marshbouy2 votes

oh god. that means his MMR will go up and i might have a tiny chance of playing with him, oh god, the horror...

Caítlyn3 votes

After the first paragraph, I couldnt stop laughing. "I play Yasuo, he takes a lot of skill"

So you have a wall that blocks literally everything in the game, and you think AP champs are OP? Since pressing W is too hard for you, let me help you. item 3155 You see this item? Yeah? Know what it is? It makes you auto win your lane vs any AP champ. item 3156 You see this? It builds from the previous item and gives you a ton of damage and a ton of defense. OP. item 3065 You see this thing? Its a secret hack item makes you invincible vs AP. Its called a "Spirit Visage". You can find it under the tab for "Magic Resist", since I doubt youve ever bought anything in there before.

You complain AP items have more AP then AD items do, thats because their skills is all they have. After their skills are on cd, they are 100% USELESS. When AD champs go on cd, they can still attack for hundreds of damage. Which means if you buy item 3156 and item 3065 you wont die in 1 combo, the Veigar or Annie or whatever will be useless, and you can kill them for free. How hard is that?

Also you think Katarina is OP. LOL! Lets pretend Kat ults you. See that W key on your keyboard? Press it. You made Kat deal 0 damage. 0. Zero. ZE-RO. Im finding it amusing that I know more about Yasuo then you and your hundreds of mastery points.

Next point. Your first few paragraphs are complaining about AP champions. Then you say Jax XinZhao Tryndamere are OP. What? So which is it? AP champs OP? AD? Wouldnt that make Yasuo OP then since hes also AD?

Last point. It seems like youre mainly complaining about URF and how Yasuo isnt good in there. You know why? BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE GAME Yasuo PLAYS IS ALREADY URF MODE. He has a dash with NO COOLDOWN. HIS Q HAS NO CD. Yasuo is the only champion in the game that is in perma-URF mode so what did you expect to change for him in URF? Double crit chance for free? Wait a minute...

Anyways thanks for the entertainment. This thread is pure comedy gold.

Bultz1 votes

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After the first paragraph, I couldnt stop laughing. "I play Yasuo, he takes a lot of skill"

So you have a wall that blocks literally everything in the game, and you think AP champs are OP? Since pressing W is too hard for you, let me help you. item 3155 You see this item? Yeah? Know what it is? It makes you auto win your lane vs any AP champ. item 3156 You see this? It builds from the previous item and gives you a ton of damage and a ton of defense. OP. item 3065 You see this thing? It makes you unkillable vs AP. Its called a "Spirit Visage". You can find it under the tab for "Magic Resist", since I doubt youve ever bought anything in there before.

"After the first paragraph, I couldnt stop laughing. "I play Yasuo, he takes a lot of skill"" clearly you didnt read shit.

"So you have a wall that blocks literally everything in the game, and you think AP champs are OP? Since pressing W is too hard for you, let me help you."

are you talking about the wall that has high cool downs and is really easy to avoid? Btw most ap moves are not considered projectiles and can't be blocked.

"You see this item? Yeah? Know what it is? It makes you auto win your lane vs any AP champ. You see this? It builds from the previous item and gives you a ton of damage and a ton of defense. OP. You see this thing? It makes you unkillable vs AP. Its called a "Spirit Visage". You can find it under the tab for "Magic Resist", since I doubt you've ever bought anything in there before."

Did you read my post at all or did you go "imma go in there and post stupid comments"? This thread is about the giant buff champions, especially ap, get in event game modes, not in regular rift games. You think I haven't built those items only to still be two hit by AP champions? I built well over 200 mr and that barely stopped them from 3 hitting me or worse.

Caítlyn2 votes

I accidentally posted too early. I added a lot more. You should read it all.

Also if you are really as skilled as you think you are you can use your wall to predict and block peoples ultimates.

Catastrop2 votes

This entire post is basically, "muh mechonix, muh skillz"

Bultz1 votes

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This entire post is basically, "muh mechonix, muh skillz"

Your entire comment is like " I should kill myself"

Catastrop2 votes

Unfortunately, I simply have too many things to look forward to :D

DrDiaga2 votes

Threads like this where op is blatantly wrong. They make me smile.

Vertu1 votes

I'm Pretty sure urf gives like 40% tenacity to everyone and bruisers are still amazing in hexakill.

Bultz1 votes

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I'm Pretty sure urf gives like 40% tenacity to everyone and bruisers are still amazing in hexakill.

They gave us i believe 15 or 25% tenacity, I built merc treds for 30% and my keystone for another 15%, I was Stunned hard as hell still.

MaxDarkwill1 votes

I'm still waiting on doombots actual challenge here I come.

Also for urf the only way I can enjoy it is playing yi . Because yes urf is that fustrating to me I need to play MasterYi

Scary Door1 votes

In this thread I learned that AD champions and right clicking is difficult. If every auto-attack was a skillshot or required aiming, I would agree with your premise. Sorry, I only read the first paragraph, if your opening premise/paragraph doesn't make sense, why read the rest?

Bultz1 votes

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In this thread I learned that AD champions and right clicking is difficult. If every auto-attack was a skillshot or required aiming, I would agree with your premise. Sorry, I only read the first paragraph, if your opening premise/paragraph doesn't make sense, why read the rest?

I have no idea what you are talking about. Nor does your sentence contain logic or organization. Nor does it address the anything said in this thread. Being ignorant and avoiding reading is one thing, but to post and insult without reading is just dumb.

Marshbouy1 votes

You are salty and of questionable intelligence.

Bultz2 votes

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You are salty and of questionable intelligence.

coming in to a chat and calling someone salty and stupid is the very definition of salty and stupid

Marshbouy1 votes

no. Sitting there whining about AP champions being "too op" when they very clearly aren't, especially katarina, is the definition of salty and stupid.

Bultz1 votes

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no. Sitting there whining about AP champions being "too op" when they very clearly aren't, especially katarina, is the definition of salty and stupid.

The fact that you addressed Katina as balanced and not op, I'm going to ignore you now because you're too stupid to talk to.

Marshbouy2 votes

okay. i dont want to talk to you.

Vertu1 votes

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Supermanrisen He's silver and salty that he can't win a game on Ascension.

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