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Garen could use a little bit higher health per level and base movement speed

Minions4eVeR··2 votes·461 views

His health per level got reduced to 84.25 from 96.

I think it would be kinda nice to give him something in-between, such as 90 HP/lvl. Would give him a bit more health late game while making his early game almost the same.

Plus, he got his movement speed reduced to 340 from 345.

Seriously?

The 5% MS nerf on his Q was largely enough. Plus, he got fair enough nerfs patch after patch, so it's really lame for him (such as killing Garen doesn't trigger Villain anymore, bugfix om Villain E damage and literally his whole kit was nerfed so he could have the Villain mechanic).

I feel like reverting the MS buffs would help him nice since you nerfed what made his other abilities completely stupid, the Villain mechanic.

I mean, his problem before was the fact that you could punish him in lane, but still comes back cuz Villain triggered on Garen killed. Now that it doesn't, I don't feel he should be that immobile anymore.

Thoughts?

7 Comments

OperationDEEZ13 votes

Shut up.

Minions4eVeR3 votes

What a nice argument you got there.

You really deserved that downvote and that report.

redniwediS2 votes

The movement speed might be able to come back, as the nerf to his ult passive in lane should be more than enough to cover whatever boost the movement speed gives him.

The health regen, however, is a definite no. They are giving him a weaker early game identity, so having low base sustain is perfectly acceptable.

Minions4eVeR1 votes

It's not health regen, but health he gains per level.

redniwediS1 votes

Oh right, sorry.

I don't think that would be necessary. He already heavily itemizes into health.

Catastrop1 votes

No, they changes made to him were to decrease lane dominance. He still gets that health back with a standard build path, same goes for the movement speed.

Dio ßrando1 votes

A guy like Garen who's main damage is sticking onto opponents without hard CC probably shouldn't get too much MS. Maybe revert one of the nerfs, I'd say the base over the Q.

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